Truck question for pellet loads

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Tonyray

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I have a half ton Toyota Pickup... great shape and only 57,000 original miles.
I always have to borrow someones ton truck to get pellets....don't relish 60- 70 dollar delivery fees.
Rear wheel drive with leaf springs in the back..
How do I beef it up in order to be able to carry a 1 ton skid without bottoming out?
air shocks?
 
I think adding additional leaf springs, or getting an entire new leaf pack with stiffer springs would help. I don't know if it is possible to beef it up enough to carry 2000lbs in the bed. But would imagine it is feasible.
 
that's too much weight for that truck Also check the tires.
 
Two trips is a good idea. I have the same truck and if I'm feeling lazy and the pellets are near, I'll do two runs. If I want a full pallet, I hook up the trailer. The little 4x2 will pull a ton on that no prob.
 
Not just the springs, think about Your rear axle! Most 3/4 ton and above trucks have whats called "Full Floating Axles". The axle housing holds the weight of the load. And has MUCH bigger bearings. Most Half ton and below have whats called "Semi Floating Axles" The rear axle shaft, the part that propels the vehicle forward, also supports the weight of the truck.
 
You can always make two trips. I rent from home depot to pick up my delivery then return the truck. I think it about affordable.
last time I used my truck at HD, They let me rip open the skid of Stove chows and we loaded 25 bags into the truck.
came back hour later and they put the remaining half ton skid in my truck... pellets dealers here want you to take the whole skid at once and that's when I borrow a friends 1 ton truck.
 
I have a half ton Toyota Pickup... great shape and only 57,000 original miles.
I always have to borrow someones ton truck to get pellets....don't relish 60- 70 dollar delivery fees.
Rear wheel drive with leaf springs in the back..
How do I beef it up in order to be able to carry a 1 ton skid without bottoming out?
air shocks?
OH NO, NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::-)
 
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I have a half ton Toyota Pickup... great shape and only 57,000 original miles.
I always have to borrow someones ton truck to get pellets....don't relish 60- 70 dollar delivery fees.
Rear wheel drive with leaf springs in the back..
How do I beef it up in order to be able to carry a 1 ton skid without bottoming out?
air shocks?

Bottoming it out, is just a symptom...if you won't haul a ton in it now, don't plan on it .

Think, hitting pothole, ball joint splattering, because it wasn't meant for that much stress, overloaded truck, hopefully rolling over into an unoccupied field.
 
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ha ha ha. Did I ever tell you the one about .............. :) We submariners are a strange lot!!!! Just a LITTLE crazy.... :p
 
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Buy a 5*8 trailer ($600) put half in the trailer and half in the bed of the truck. Surprised a pellet dealer is giving you a hard time in some states they can be held liable for a accident if they loaded it.
 
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Tacoma or Tundra? Either way, its a short bed, correct? If you must, upgraded springs, a set of quality helpers or my favorite, air bags, are required. Do not, I repeat, do not just drop the skid in the back and drive away. Either place the skid in the bed and then break down the top section of the skid, filling every available space forward and around the skid with bags OR strip the skid and hand load the bed. I have a full size, long bed 1/2ton and when I load it the bags fill the entire bed essentially up to the rails. Stacking higher than the bed rails or leaving the skid full height is asking for disaster. Then make absolutely sure the brakes are up to the job and the tires appropriately rated and fully inflated to carry the load. Tundra I would consider it, the Tacoma, no way. Split the load.
 
Breaking the load down does two things. First it drastically lowers the center of gravity and secondly, it lowers the eye appeal from the local cops who will gladly give you a ticket for exceeding your GVWL. Times are tough and cities and counties just love to take your money AND sometimes confiscate your truck.
 
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You should not even concider hauling a ton in a 1/2 ton pickup. You will loose a lot of control in the vehicle as the rear of the vehicle will sag lifting the weight off the front tires. If you do and get in an accident your insurance company has the option of cancelling your policy on the spot. The fine for an over loaded vehicle is a hefty one. Here in Mass. it is $1.00 per lbs. over the GVW. Your vehicle will pull a trailer. U-Haul has open bed trailers for rent for like $25.00 a day.
 
You should not even concider hauling a ton in a 1/2 ton pickup. You will loose a lot of control in the vehicle as the rear of the vehicle will sag lifting the weight off the front tires. If you do and get in an accident your insurance company has the option of cancelling your policy on the spot. The fine for an over loaded vehicle is a hefty one. Here in Mass. it is $1.00 per lbs. over the GVW. Your vehicle will pull a trailer. U-Haul has open bed trailers for rent for like $25.00 a day.
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There is a reason your vehicle is not rated for that weight.
 
From Autoblog.com

Payload designations such as half-ton, 3/4-ton, and 1-ton are little but nods to the past practice of naming a truck according to its actual payload, and don�t accurately describe total or per-axle payloads. While some modern half-tons (such as the heavier crew-cab models) indeed have payload ratings close to 1,000 lbs, most are rated to carry around 1,500 lbs or so. 3/4- and 1-ton pickups can carry far more than their name would suggest. My 3/4-ton GMC has a GVWR of 8600 lbs, and thus can carry 3300 lbs in addition to its wet curb weight of 5300 lbs. In fact, the rear axle of my truck is rated for 6000 lbs by itself, and maybe has 2000 lbs on it when unladed. Total payload is thus limited in this case not by spring, axle, or tire capacity, but by the brakes. Most dual rear wheel 1-tons have GVWR somewhere north of 11,000 lbs and rear axle ratings of 9,000 lbs (the two extra tires allow for the extra weight), which gives them a maximum payload of up to 5,000 lbs or so. For the record, the 4 cubic yards of wet mulch shown in the picture above was well within my truck�s capabilities, but 3 cubic yards of damp sand may have been a bit too much.
 
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Back when I got my stove I loaded up the stove and the Ton of pellets that came with in the bed of my 86 Dodge 1/2 ton and road 2 1/2 hours home on the snubbers, not recommended but what the heck took it easy. Throw some add-a-leafs on there and go for it.
 
Best investment I made on my F250 was an air lift system. I kept the stock springs and added the air bag kit(best to install the compressor too). I could add air just before I loaded it. And let it out once done. Truck kept it stock ride hight and quality. Another is snubbers you add over the rear leaf springs. They only make contact once the weight is on.

I don't recommend adding anything that kills the ride quality like adding heavier springs. You'll then hate driving the truck without a load and your teeth may get jarred loose!
 
last time I used my truck at HD, They let me rip open the skid of Stove chows and we loaded 25 bags into the truck.
came back hour later and they put the remaining half ton skid in my truck... pellets dealers here want you to take the whole skid at once and that's when I borrow a friends 1 ton truck.

This is what happens when I go to Depot. They simply won't allow one ton to be put into F150. Ultimately, the place is less than a mile from my house, so it's really not a big deal. Not to mention, I really don't want the liability of carrying a load that my truck simply isn't built to carry. I've acquired a few assets in my life, and would prefer to hold onto them! Next year, I plan on purchasing 7 ton of pellets, so there is zero chance that I have to scramble for another ton in the middle of the Winter. I will gladly pay the $65.00 delivery fee, as it's well worth the effort that I'm not forced to put into unstacking and re-stacking all of those pellets.
 
If it fits ...it ships. There are so may ways to load your 1/2 ton PU. Have you considered gorilla taping bags to the outside of the truck? overlapped like shingles I'll bet you can get an extra 3/4 ton!!! If its a 4 cylinder you can stuff an additional 1/2 ton under the hood (bungee the hood down). then we have the passenger compartment ...(passenger compartment...manufacturers secret code word for payload storage) Under the seats...two more bags. Lotta guys don't know this but you can put another bag on the drivers seat...Dash board...block all vision through windshield (hold your head out window to see!!!) glove box...12/bag there too (other half bag is used to fill all voids and your under ware) Tires...little known trick lower pressure in each tire 30 lbs...30 lbs time 4 tires = 120 lbs ...that's 3 bags worth. Brakes... pay no attention to the brakes...you only need them once to stop at your house...use your head...slow down when you get close to home!!!. Now if you kill some child or some family. just say" geez I didn't know I was over loaded....besides no respecting person would sue you for killing a loved one... If something bad happens and your proven to be over weight by even a lil bit, they will "HANG" you...as they should. There are some VERY smart posters on this forum...there are some posters here ...that "if brains was dynamite , they wouldn't have enough to blow their own nose" In closing I'm not calling anyone out on this...BUT...if the shoe fits...wear it
 
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