Watch who you hire to do chimney work

jetsam

Minister of Fire
Dec 12, 2015
4,250
Long Island, NY
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When we told Larocca industry leaders said he should not be using combustible rubberized sealants to coat entire chimneys, he said, “rubberized compounds are not flammable.”

Why are we even talking about whether rubber is flammable?

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...yeah.

Nice use of foil tape to rig up a mutant leaky T to allow your stove to share a flue with whatever's downstairs, though...

These are the photos that HE chose to put up as advertising, too. o_O
 
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BIGChrisNH

Feeling the Heat
Dec 16, 2015
378
New Hampshire
Is he actually using driveway sealant to do a crown repair? Wow I mean what could go wrong?
 

KJamesJR

Feeling the Heat
Jan 8, 2018
345
New Hampshire
When your house burns down and chimney falls over at least you’ll have something to park your car on.
 
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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,349
Indiana
I’ve seen liquid tar used as a crown seal several times.
Today we put a door in for someone that just paid to have his smoke chamber parged. The guy used a system that’s sprayed, it didn’t go well... all the holes in the bricks were still visible, and the sealant drooped down making hundreds of stalactites hanging. It was worse than the original bricks! I’ve worked behind him several times, he needs to make a lot of refunds. Nothing but a big scam!
 

jetsam

Minister of Fire
Dec 12, 2015
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Long Island, NY
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I need someone to come up with a story that beats "coated entire prefab fireplace in driveway sealer, built T out of foil tape to allow stove to connect to furnace flue from downstairs", which is what I think I am seeing in the above ad photo.

That is really something. That's from his own yelp.com advertising photo album. See it all here, if you dare.
 
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bholler

Chimney sweep
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Jan 14, 2014
19,022
central pa
I need someone to come up with a story that beats "coated entire prefab fireplace in driveway sealer, built T out of foil tape to allow stove to connect to furnace flue from downstairs", which is what I think I am seeing in the above ad photo.

That is really something.
That tee doesn't connect to anything but the pellet stove it was put in for. It is still horribly done for sure but no furnace.
 

jetsam

Minister of Fire
Dec 12, 2015
4,250
Long Island, NY
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That tee doesn't connect to anything but the pellet stove it was put in for. It is still horribly done for sure but no furnace.
Are you sure? The "cap" on the bottom is black and looks like it's coming through fireplace? Maybe it's just the tar.

You'd know better than me, though.
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,349
Indiana
Looks like paint overspray to me..
All of the visible components look to be galvanized steel, including the hearth extension.
 
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bholler

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Jan 14, 2014
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central pa
Are you sure? The "cap" on the bottom is black and looks like it's of a piece with the fireplace? Maybe it's just the tar.
I dont think it has a tee cap at all. It looks like it is just an open tee sitting on the fireplace floor.
 

bholler

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Jan 14, 2014
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central pa
The idiocy on his website would be amusing if he wasn't screwing people over and endangering them.
 
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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
Nice use of foil tape to rig up a mutant leaky T to allow your stove to share a flue with whatever's downstairs, though...
I could be wrong, but the low, taped pipe looks like it is for a pellet stove with a pressurized exhaust.

The galvanized metal on the hearth has a hole cut in it. Looks like that will be used to close off the fireplace opening.
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,349
Indiana
I could be wrong, but the taped pipe looks like it is for a pellet stove with a pressurized exhaust.
Tape is standard practice on an insulated liner system.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
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Jan 14, 2014
19,022
central pa
Tape is standard practice on an insulated liner system.
Yes tape is fine. But I would bet that galvanized pipe is just stuck up into the fireplace flue.
 

webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
10,349
Indiana
Yes tape is fine. But I would bet that galvanized pipe is just stuck up into the fireplace flue.
I agree, there’s no way it’s approved in any way shape or form!
 
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EbS-P

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Jan 19, 2019
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This is from my home town. We hit with her with hurricane Florence and since then finding anyone to do any kind of home repair has not been easy and find someone to do a quality job can be near impossible. There are two good companies in town but they are pricy. 10 years ago I had a level 2 chimney cleaning that they charged me 600$ for 15’ of 8x13 flue. I was quoted about 300$ to re-crown mine.

Is it typical to require a journeyman license to sweep a chimney?
 

Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
10,752
Southern IN
I guess he put concrete over the expansion gap so it wouldn't leak. And the crown looks very robust. ;lol For that kind of hack work, it better be "affordable." Just the fact that he thinks his yelp page is going to get him business, brings his brain into question. :oops:
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I was quoted about 300$ to re-crown mine.
I was quoted two or three thousand for a roof-up re-build. I think a fair price for a good job would be somewhere in between. bholler estimated 1000-1200 for just a crown, 1500 for a rebuild above the roof and pouring a crown, in my chimney thread. I might have bit on that deal, but I quit looking, as cold weather was almost here, and just did it myself.
 
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bholler

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Jan 14, 2014
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central pa
This is from my home town. We hit with her with hurricane Florence and since then finding anyone to do any kind of home repair has not been easy and find someone to do a quality job can be near impossible. There are two good companies in town but they are pricy. 10 years ago I had a level 2 chimney cleaning that they charged me 600$ for 15’ of 8x13 flue. I was quoted about 300$ to re-crown mine.

Is it typical to require a journeyman license to sweep a chimney?
600 is crazy for a cleaning and 300 is crazy low for a crown
 
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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
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Indiana
600 is crazy for a cleaning and 300 is crazy low for a crown
A crown seal would be more than that!
If I had to pay that much for a chimney cleaning I’d be loosing money. I’d just burn gas! We have customers that have their system cleaned twice a year and certainly don’t need it, but they feel better about it. It kind of negates the saving to me.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
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Jan 14, 2014
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central pa
A crown seal would be more than that!
If I had to pay that much for a chimney cleaning I’d be loosing money. I’d just burn gas! We have customers that have their system cleaned twice a year and certainly don’t need it, but they feel better about it. It kind of negates the saving to me.
Yeah we have some we do twice a year also. And they usually don't need it. But even twice a year isn't 600
 
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