Some of you may remember I'm trying to get a englander 30 installed and drafting properly(note nothing wrong with stove, just the flue). For right now the old franklin is hooked up while I figure out what to do. So first off I don't meet the 10/2 rule, I need at least 2 feet to do that, plus from the bottom of my stove(brick hearth) to the top of my chimney is 14 feet. So it would seem that a 2 ft extension would take care of all problems. BUT, I got up there today to measure for the 10/2 thing how much higher I had to go, and I can literally move the last flue tile around, the joint is the same for the outer block and the inner liner, and it's basically just sitting there, Now I know I have to remortar that cinder block for safety. So the other problem is my flue is 7x7 id, so it would seem non ideal for the 6" collar anyway. My cleanout door is also nonexistent....etc etc etc.
So all that being said, it seems to be safest, I have two choices, either a liner or a new chimney. Since my stove is on the top floor and I have attic access, it doesn't seem like a new chimney would be much more work...I can brick over the old thimble, not too worried about that. The issues with the liner are that I would like to go rigid if i do that, and the mortaring looks sloppy in there, so i'm hesitant on that, plus my thimble is exactly 6" ID so i may not even get the tee snout through there. So unless I'm way off it seems that a class A chimney would not be much more than a liner and may be less hassle. I'm a fairly decent carpenter, so the cutting holes and such doesn't scare me at all. By my calculations, I'd only need about 9' of double wall pipe, plus all the other components, which seems to put me at btwn 6-700 dollars. Then I'd have 5' of black pipe down to the stove. If I read englanders manual right, i need 15' minimum from the bottom of the stove. With this setup, I'll be about 16 feet and I will meet the 10/3/2 rule.
So am I just crazy to think of this over a liner? I really want this to be safe which is why I wanted a new stove in the first place, I have my family here and I want this done right. Am I missing something in how hard the chimneys are to install? I'm not scared to go roll around in fiberglass up in the attic or work on my roof, it's not that steep. I guess at this point, I'm just looking to make sure that which ever way I go will work and the liner seems a gamble with the crappy mortaring of my chimney.
Wow that was long winded, sorry, but thanks for all the great advice so far, and keep it coming.
So all that being said, it seems to be safest, I have two choices, either a liner or a new chimney. Since my stove is on the top floor and I have attic access, it doesn't seem like a new chimney would be much more work...I can brick over the old thimble, not too worried about that. The issues with the liner are that I would like to go rigid if i do that, and the mortaring looks sloppy in there, so i'm hesitant on that, plus my thimble is exactly 6" ID so i may not even get the tee snout through there. So unless I'm way off it seems that a class A chimney would not be much more than a liner and may be less hassle. I'm a fairly decent carpenter, so the cutting holes and such doesn't scare me at all. By my calculations, I'd only need about 9' of double wall pipe, plus all the other components, which seems to put me at btwn 6-700 dollars. Then I'd have 5' of black pipe down to the stove. If I read englanders manual right, i need 15' minimum from the bottom of the stove. With this setup, I'll be about 16 feet and I will meet the 10/3/2 rule.
So am I just crazy to think of this over a liner? I really want this to be safe which is why I wanted a new stove in the first place, I have my family here and I want this done right. Am I missing something in how hard the chimneys are to install? I'm not scared to go roll around in fiberglass up in the attic or work on my roof, it's not that steep. I guess at this point, I'm just looking to make sure that which ever way I go will work and the liner seems a gamble with the crappy mortaring of my chimney.
Wow that was long winded, sorry, but thanks for all the great advice so far, and keep it coming.
Almost nothing left, and what they had they moved to a lil corner, all the spring stuff is out, no stove pipe at all, gonna call the one a few miles down the road. Stuff seems fairly reasonable either way, not putting it in until the spring, so if i can't snag it on sale, not the end of the world.
