Hi all, I read many times this forum and was wondering if PH owners were still very satisfied of their stoves. I will have to get an other stove in a near future and wonder if I will buy another Hearthstone Heritage Truhybrid or the Progress Hybrid??? Both are very nice and both have soapstone. The PH has a fixed front door, that is a main negative point compared to the Heritage having front and side opening doors. But the Heritage doesn't have andirons, the PH is rated to 1.33g/h and the Heritage at 0.54 g/h, The Heritage can have cast iron enameled but not the PH, the PH has a very good ash pan but the Heritage one is very small...I never saw a PH in real life but for the look it's a very nice one and hope to go down to see that beauty as the time will permit it. Thanks for your help.
Would you buy an other Woodstock Progress Hybrid?
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toddnic
Minister of Fire
Absolutely! We have owned the PH since 2013. It has served us well and I highly recommend it. Also, Woodstock is enhancing the airflow which is supposed to provide even greater control for long burns. I would not hesitate in purchasing it again.
Thanks todnic, What is your regular top of the stove's temperature? Can you run it on low temp for a steady burn, if so does the glass gets black/brown? On my Heritage with the cat engaged, the front glass gets very black and hard to clean on low burns like 300/350 *F.
toddnic
Minister of Fire
Nortcan, great questions. I typically run my stove around 400 degrees but it really depends upon the temperature outside. If it is really cold outside, I run it around 500 or 550 degrees. Also, during the shoulder season (Fall & Spring) I might start a small fire in the evening or morning just to briefly heat the stove up (it holds heat for hours after the fire burns out). Regarding the front glass, I get more soot on the glass during the shoulder season than in the winter. Also, if my wood is dry, I get much less soot on the glass. It really has not been that much of an issue.
Nigel459
Feeling the Heat
Hi my Ontario friend. Yes that is a serious question. Usually, my insurance compagnys don't even ask if the stove is UL or ULC, complient., worst, this year I changed my insurance for an other compagny and they asked me to have the Heritage 2020 inspected. They asked that the glass to be check by a stove specialist to make shure the glass was safe and original, the inspector thought that the side loading door should have a glass in it, just to show how they can be .....I had a Sunnyside 1874 coal (anthracite) stove and a Golden Bride 1905 coal stove and no insurer cared about the EPA regulation for them (LOL), seriously they were more confortable with these old stoves than with a 2020 wood stove ...
The UL is a national recognized registration, if buying old stoves without any registration and no question from the insurer, I imaginated it would/could be OK ??? From all the researches I did on the UL and ULC, I thought it could be correct, I hesitate to ask to the insurer their opinion based on what I wrote here for the heritage's glass... Thanks
From what part of Ontario are you?
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If I could do it over again I would get an Ideal Steel. But, my wife did not like the look of them, so we went with the Progress Hybrid. It was still a win. My expectations were high before getting the stove, and it has exceeded them. You would not be disappointed.
Thanks trguitar. What do you mean by : getting an Ideal Steel ? What would you like more from the I S than from the PH except for the look ? What is your regular top of the stove temperature ? How old is your PH ? Was it hard to get the stove in your house ?
WoodBurnerInWI
Feeling the Heat
I'd recommend the Woodstock stove as well. I own the Ideal Steel and went with that one because of it's large firebox size, ability to load N/S or E/W, great burn times and of course the clean burn. Watching the secondary fire show is probably the most enjoyable and unexpected bonus of the stove. I saw a lot of videos on people filming their secondary burns in these Woodstock stoves and my own experience with it was pretty much the same. How they look like the northern lights is very mesmerizing.
barnaclebob
Feeling the Heat
I'd buy mine again, especially now that it looks like they are going to be upgrading the air control.
Basically the only way I can control the temp with mine is the amount/type of wood I'm burning. With 20+ft chimney, once the stove is up to temp it gets shut all the way down. Typically thats a surface temp of 450ish. It will get up to 550 or 600 if I do a full hot reload. The true lack of temp control isn't a big deal for me since those temps make my house comfortable.
Basically the only way I can control the temp with mine is the amount/type of wood I'm burning. With 20+ft chimney, once the stove is up to temp it gets shut all the way down. Typically thats a surface temp of 450ish. It will get up to 550 or 600 if I do a full hot reload. The true lack of temp control isn't a big deal for me since those temps make my house comfortable.
Thanks barnaclebob, good for you to be able to have hot stove and be OK. For my case, the stove would have to idle at about 300/350, the space is about 725 S/f but the house has 3 floors with that S/f, the furnace air handler runs 24/24 and it could helps to move the hot air.
I like the ability to customize the look of the IS. That is the main reason. My regular stove top temp really depends on the temp outside. If it is above 30f, I shut it all the way down, and it stays around 400f. If it is close to 0f outside, I leave the air open about halfway, and my stove top temp is up around 600f.
I got my PH in 2016. A friend and I got it into the house on a dolly. It is very heavy. It was challenging but doable. We took everything out of it to make it as light as possible.
fire_man
Minister of Fire
I have one of the first Production Progress Hybrids (2012 vintage) and DEFINITELY would recommend it.
* Long Burn times 12+ hrs
* Great ash pan design
* Beautiful stove
* Extremely frugal with wood
* Woodstock customer service is top notch
* Long Burn times 12+ hrs
* Great ash pan design
* Beautiful stove
* Extremely frugal with wood
* Woodstock customer service is top notch
Thanks fire man. So the ash pan is useful, many ash pan are useless and a waste of money. I hesitate about getting one or not Well, in fact I read a lot of reviews for the PH and they are very positive for the stove and for Woodstock custommers service. And I agree the PH is a super nice stove. I hopr that the new air damper lever doesn't look too bulk on a so nice stove.
Salutations from Québec
Rearscreen
Minister of Fire
After owning Jotul's, Hearthstones's (plural) and several other brands, nothing has compared to the Progress. I also like the cooktop feature. However, if I were to replace it, I just might go for the Ideal Steel. Woodstock is coming out with a better air intake for the Progress.
Rearscreen
Minister of Fire
I went to the Hearthstone Website to look at the Hearthstone Heritage Truhybrid. The see-through legs are quite impressive. Totally unique.
weatherguy
Minister of Fire
With the layout of your house Id consider the Ideal Steel, you can burn at a lower temp for a longer time. I have the PH and love it but would have got the IS if if would have fit on my hearth.
I thought to my self, how on earth could you have see through legs on a wood stove. I was thinking maybe they were really thin or something. Sure enough, looked at the website and it shows a real see through leg... Amazing. I'm guessing that upgrade is an extra 6k?
The heritage is a 2.2 cuft stove with 77% efficiency,up to 25hrs of burn time, and heats up to 2100sqft. The progress is 2.8 cuft with 81% efficiency, up to 14hrs of burn time, and heats up to 2200sqft.... Both are similar price range. I would go for the progress if I had the money but the heritage is a nice looking stove.
Hi rearscreen, thanks for your comments. One of the main reason I would like to get a PH is the cook top. It gives 2 nice options : a nice soapstone top and a useful cook top, that on the same soapstone stove. But a few PH owners seem to like the Ideal Steel for some reasons, maybe for the front door you can open compared to the fixed one on the PH ? I must admit that the PH fixed front door scare me, particulary cause I always light the stove with the top/down method...For me and the wife, a steel stove would be the last option for a wood stove, I/we love the look of the soapstone , beautiful all year long. Plus in a space like mine, the slow and even temperature is a plus compared to a steel or cast iron stove.
I think that the fixed front door on the PH is what scare me the most for the PH, especially for the glass cleaning and using the top down method to start a new fire. The Heritage stove is a 2020 model and I think that only time will valid the TruHybrid Heritage qualities...but the PH did for many years... Woodstock seems to win over other brands for the customers service.
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