Chrism said:Oak, black walnut, maple. I'm guessin my wood isn't seasoned yet
Battenkiller said:No offense meant, big dude, but if your gonna tell a guy his wood ain't dry, go to his house and test it yourself. Determining the MC in someone's wood stack based on the what he describes inside his firebox is patently absurd IMO.
Chrism said:So if I burn at 400 on the rutland I got since its off a little I should be ok then?
Chrism said:I have an idea but is there a video of how you want the fire to look when the secondaries have kicked in? All I know is there is supposed to be no smoke comin out of the chimney from what I understand .
karl said:Wow. Everybody's throwing around facts. How about just a plain old observation.
If you have shiny stuff in the stove after a fire, you're not burning hot enough. It could be the wood or it could be burning at too low of a setting. This time of year it's not a big deal. I'm getting a bit of that in my stove with slab wood that's been stacked for over a year.
Two months from now when you're burning that stove for all its worth, you should not see the shiny stuff. If you do then it's a cause for concern. As for cleaning it. Don't be paranoid. There are people who regularly chip 5 gallons of sticky creosote out of a chimney and chimney fires still aren't super commonplace. There are people out there that create chimney fires as a way to clean the chimney. I'm not saying there smart, but they all aren't dying.
Wait until you have a bit of a warm day in mid December or early January and take a look down the chimney and see what's there.
I'm all for being cautious. And I realize I'm still a relative newbie. I have only put 25 or so cords through my Summit, but EPA stoves burn clean. Even when you don't use them correctly, they still burn cleaner than a fireplace for a pre-EPA stove. And if you're install is done properly, at the very least it should handle one chimney fire without destroying the house.
Relax enjoy the stove and learn what you can about burning with wood.
chief I agree to an extent, but look at the other side of the coin.....if this guy didn't have multiple opinions (which I assume is why he posted on here) then he would be stabbing a pig in the dark.....just giving him some different ideas and options....but I agree 100% that there are a ton of variables that THE USER will have to figure out for his/her particular situation, that could take him/her a year or more....it doesn't hurt to have some starting points though.....one of the things that I like about this forum.....tfdchief said:Wow. I love this place, but sometimes I think a few get a little carried away. Burning wood has so many variables. There are consistencies of course, but you really have to figure out your situation. Even scientific studies have to be considered in light of the controlled situation, which we may not have at home. I have successfully burned wood for 40 years, and in about everything you can burn wood in, and I just don't think it can all be boiled down to some of the simplistic statements that get made here sometimes. Just sayin.
Agreed, all I am saying is the "different ideas and options" don't always sound like different ideas and options.Scotty Overkill said:chief I agree to an extent, but look at the other side of the coin.....if this guy didn't have multiple opinions (which I assume is why he posted on here) then he would be stabbing a pig in the dark.....just giving him some different ideas and options....but I agree 100% that there are a ton of variables that THE USER will have to figure out for his/her particular situation, that could take him/her a year or more....it doesn't hurt to have some starting points though.....one of the things that I like about this forum.....tfdchief said:Wow. I love this place, but sometimes I think a few get a little carried away. Burning wood has so many variables. There are consistencies of course, but you really have to figure out your situation. Even scientific studies have to be considered in light of the controlled situation, which we may not have at home. I have successfully burned wood for 40 years, and in about everything you can burn wood in, and I just don't think it can all be boiled down to some of the simplistic statements that get made here sometimes. Just sayin.
Relax, hey we all have our opinions, that's what makes the world go round....lol....tfdchief said:Agreed, all I am saying is the "different ideas and options" don't always sound like different ideas and options.
I will apologize now before this goes to the Ash Can.
Chrism said:I have an idea but is there a video of how you want the fire to look when the secondaries have kicked in? All I know is there is supposed to be no smoke comin out of the chimney from what I understand .
+ 100, Hurah! Now we are talkin!BrotherBart said:Chrism said:I have an idea but is there a video of how you want the fire to look when the secondaries have kicked in? All I know is there is supposed to be no smoke comin out of the chimney from what I understand .
Returning to our regularly scheduled program:
You have three things that tell you how your stove is operating. A stove top thermometer, the condition of the fire as you see it in the stove and the chimney.
Using those three and information you can glean from our sometimes over-exuberant advise here you will learn how to get the most from that great wood stove. It takes time and it takes practice. And something will be a little different with every load of wood you put in the stove. Wood burning is about as inexact a science as you will find because of all the variables tfdchief alluded to. It is proven out by testimony of dozens of people here over the years that it takes a season's burning in a new stove to get it down. And that season can be frustrating. But well worth it once that night arrives where you say to yourself "By George I think I've got it.". Then the next night something else weird will happen.
And don't let the goofy directions that threads can head off in here discourage you from asking questions. We all still have them and this is a good place to get the answers as best as people can give them.
Loco Gringo said:When I bought my EPA stove second hand earlier this yr it had some shiny residue in the fire box. Reading advice here in an effort to keep any evil glazed creosote to a minimum I decided to buy a bottle, 2 actually, of Anti Creosote Spray. Ive been using it for 2 weeks now and my box is full of dried up, grayish pieces of crumbled up ash which I assume is the result of using a few sprays a day. Cheap insurance if you ask me.
Loco Gringo said:When I bought my EPA stove second hand earlier this yr it had some shiny residue in the fire box. Reading advice here in an effort to keep any evil glazed creosote to a minimum I decided to buy a bottle, 2 actually, of Anti Creosote Spray. Ive been using it for 2 weeks now and my box is full of dried up, grayish pieces of crumbled up ash which I assume is the result of using a few sprays a day. Cheap insurance if you ask me.
Chrism, Google it and take your pick.Chrism said:Where do you get Anti Creosote Spray from ??
Chrism said:Stove guy worded it in a way that a new wood stove owner can understand, I get it . And one more thing when you guys load a stove for the night do u fill it as much as you can? And what do you look for as far as air control , do u turn it down to where it almost goes out then open it up a crack to give it enough air to see a faint bluish flame or do you keep the rolling orange flame goin ??