i believe the 555 and 562 have the same pro grade magnesium crankcase and lower end components. the 562 is just tuned differently
Looking for a new saw
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I agree. It's an oversimplification. Right now Husqvarna has four classifications:
Casual Use
All-Round Saws (455/460 Rancher, et al.)
Powerful Robust Saws (545, 555, 365)
Professional Saws (XP models)
The "powerful robust saws" are the same saw as their professional analog, except for their detuned engines. That is, the are of the same quality components as their XP analogs except that the engine porting is different.
545 ~ 550XP
555 ~ 560XP/562XP
365 ~ 372XP
Oldman47
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I bought a 555 on line this spring and I am just loving it. It runs well, starts easily and cuts like crazy. It is also a fairly light weight saw, even with the 20 inch bar I have on it. Husky calls it a semi-pro on their web site but it could be used all day by a pro that just drops small trees, under about 18 inches diameter, or who also has a bigger saw for the big stuff. The HP rating on my 555 is slightly less than the 60cc pro saw but that means very littled to me. I only cut a few cords each year so I don't need a super fast cutting saw. This one cuts circles around my old Stihl 026.
2broke2ride
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The CS 2260, CS 2253 and CS 2188 are pro saws.
The CS 2188 is an 88cc beast that is the same saw as the Husqvarna 390XP and costs a grand.
The CS 2188 is an 88cc beast that is the same saw as the Husqvarna 390XP and costs a grand.
Jonsered is owned by Husqvarna AB. Most (emphasis on "most") modern Jonsered saws are duplicates of saws found in Husqvarna's lineup on all levels--homeowner, midgrade, and pro. Pro models are available, for the most part, through Jonsered dealers.
Another example: Jonsered 2172 = Husqvarna 372XP (in all parts that matter)
No love for the makita/domlar saws? Not uncommon to see the 64cc saws for under $400 used. Thats a lotof horsepower per dollar..
There's a lot of love for Makita/Dolmar; however, the 6400/6401/6421 is a bit bulky and heavy for it's displacement and certainly for its horsepower class. The 6100 is a nice saw, but the 555 is a nicer total package in terms of power-to-weight and its AutoTune carb. On paper it pretty much matches the venerable Stihl 361.
About a year ago a Husky factory rep came through town and stopped at a local logging store to do a couple demos, talk about Husky saws, etc.
Straight from his mouth is what I said about the XP vs the Rancher line vs the Homeowner line.
If he was wrong about what he said, then I'm wrong too.
claydogg84
Minister of Fire
Nope. They split up 3 or 4 years ago. (Maybe 5?)
The Johny's are still clones of the older Husqys, but they are going to diverge more and more over time. Still a great saw.
Really, among Stihl, Husky, Jonsered, Makita/Dolmar, it comes down to the DEALER. Find the guy who is going to give you good service, buy a decent size saw from him, some Stihl chains (yes, they ARE better), get a good sharpening system going, and you are set.
Yes,
I was looking on Husqvarna website, you're right, there is a line that is not XP that they show as a grade above the Rancher: the 545, 555, and 365.
I was comparing the XP to the Rancher while not realizing there was a line I didn't know about.
Apologies for the confusion, I thought the OP was comparing a Rancher to an XP, when he clearly was not.
Ignorance on my part. I learned something new today.
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Wow. Talk about acting like an adult. Most guys would have cut tail and run like a child. Mad respect for coming back to the thread.
I'm no chainsaw expert. Let me get this straight, correct me if I'm wrong.
460 Rancher - 60cc saw with "pro-sumer" internals at 3.6 hp
555 - 60cc saw with pro 562xp internals but engine de-rated to 4.3 hp
562xp - 60cc saw w/ same pro internals as 555 but full rated engine at 4.7 hp
All 60cc saws so it's kinda confusing. Seems like the 555 would last the longest as you have the best parts but are running them less hard.
Yeah, the 555, 545, 365 line is definitely something that has my interest now if I were looking for a new saw.
It used to be a stihl was a stihl and a husky was a husky and red was red. Now some red is orange, and some orange is even green.
Hard to keep up.
So I have a line on a used 562xp for $400. It's a 2013 model and sounds like the guy has a tree business of some sort. He said the saw has approx. 75 hours on it. How he got that I'm not sure. Should I be wary of buying this saw used? Is the price good for it? What are some things to look for in this saw if I go see it? It looks clean in the picture he provided.
I'm basically debating on waiting until the spring and getting a new 555 or pulling the trigger on this used saw now.
I'm basically debating on waiting until the spring and getting a new 555 or pulling the trigger on this used saw now.
i would be wary of any professionally used 2 year old saw. i dont know if they can pull hours off the saw with a laptop or not but if not its his word. i paid $425 for my 2172 ($799 new) with a craigslist find still in box, only problem was the brake handle was broke ($35 replacement). i would watch CL closely until spring for a lightly used saw, if nothing pull for the new.
claydogg84
Minister of Fire
I believe the hours can be retrieved on the new AutoTune saws. 75 hours isn't crazy high but it's definitely used. I'd take a look at the piston/head and see how it looks. $400 is a reasonable price for a 562xp in good condition, in & out.
The Weimar
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Like Ben said earlier, keep your eyes on CL or the local paper for a deal on a good saw. The way i see it, these high end saws (MS Stihls and XP Husky) are well worth the $$'s, even if they are used. There is alot of talk about the higher grade of materials used in these saws but not a lot of talk about the engineering that goes into the design of the 'pro' saw. Used at the level that homeowners typically use them at, even used 'pro' saw will outlast a brand new Big Box store saw.
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The Weimar
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The Weimar
Interesting. I know about the Husqvarna AB (Husqvarna Group) split from Electrolux about 10 years ago. They also have had some smaller internal reorganizations, but I wasn't aware Jonsered's split from Husqvarna Group.
Jonsered is still listed as one of Husqvarna Group's brands, and they list current AutoTune saws as part of their product lineup (analogs of 555, 550XP, 562XP, et al.).
http://www.husqvarnagroup.com/en/products
http://www.husqvarnagroup.com
I run both a Jonsered CS2253 and a Husq 455 Rancher somewhat regularly. I'd recommend both, but for different things.
The 455 is a fine saw for the price. Its just fine for occasional use for a homeowner who needs a little more saw than your basic model. I find it to be heavy and a little underpowered for the weight.
The CS2253 is an amazing saw. Fast chain speed and autotune. Much lighter (20%) than the 455 and much more power. Its almost 1.75x the price of the 455 and you get what you pay for.
If I had to pick one saw to have in the 50cc class. The CS2253 would be it.
That said, the Husq 550xp is almost the same saw as the CS2253... I just happen to like the 90deg handle.
The 455 is a fine saw for the price. Its just fine for occasional use for a homeowner who needs a little more saw than your basic model. I find it to be heavy and a little underpowered for the weight.
The CS2253 is an amazing saw. Fast chain speed and autotune. Much lighter (20%) than the 455 and much more power. Its almost 1.75x the price of the 455 and you get what you pay for.
If I had to pick one saw to have in the 50cc class. The CS2253 would be it.
That said, the Husq 550xp is almost the same saw as the CS2253... I just happen to like the 90deg handle.
In 2006 Husqvarna was spun off from Electrolux. But they make the Jonsered saws. Jonsered as a company shut down in 1978.
Yes. It's not the hours, it's what low-wage idiot employee who doesn't have to pay for the saw was running it and how did he treat it?
claydogg84
Minister of Fire
This is the second thread I've seen where people were advising to stay away from a saw that was being used on a daily basis. Here's my problem with that - If you buy a saw off of Craigslist for instance, who really knows what the saw was used for? Sure, he may tell you it was for occasional firewood, but what's stopping him from lieing? What the saw was used for is not as important as its current condition. So Ted, if the internals look good, don't be afraid to pull the trigger.
I'm going to look at the saw and if it starts up with no problem, doesn't smoke or leak, and does t make any weird noises, it should be ok I would think. I doubt I'm going to be able to take anything apart
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