$5800 for new BK Ashford 30.2?

[bholler]

waste of time. most like being looted

What exactly does that mean?

 

[mr meener]

What are you basing this opinion on?

just funny with a little sarcasm. people should look at the Drolet HT-3000 stove for $1699. limited lifetime warranty. my friend has one for 20 years. made in Canada 5/16 top steel. very good stove for the money and they have an extensive line of stoves

 

[mr meener]

What exactly does that mean?

people defend high prices so they must like them

 

[bholler]

just funny with a little sarcasm. people should look at the Drolet HT-3000 stove for $1699. limited lifetime warranty. my friend has one for 20 years. made in Canada 5/16 top steel. very good stove for the money and they have an extensive line of stoves

Yes i know I sell them. As well as Regency stoves. The fit and finish and quality of engineering is no comparison. Sbi definitely makes great stoves for the money. But they are obviously built on a budget

 

[bholler]

people defend high prices so they must like them

No one is defending high prices. Just explaining reasons for the increases.

 

[Todd]

Certainly may happen next year, but the $2k tax credit ending this year is driving sales hard and fast.

BKVP

They never should have enacted the tax credit, it just drove prices up and not everyone qualified for it. I doubt the prices will go back down next year unless sales really drop off.

 

[bholler]

They never should have enacted the tax credit, it just drove prices up and not everyone qualified for it. I doubt the prices will go back down next year unless sales really drop off.

That is not what drove prices up

 

[EbS-P]

doubt the prices will go back down

Name a non electronic consumer good that the price has dropped on and when. Wood stove aren’t high volume. I would like to know volume of SBI, Travis, Jotul, and BK.

Oil is cheap when you take inflation into account

 

[mr meener]

a stove is just a steel box. it doesnt have pumps switches thermostats a compressor a transmission a cooling system a giant electronic brain. maybe there is not enough call for the expense but robots could make stoves

 

[bholler]

a stove is just a steel box. it doesnt have pumps switches thermostats a compressor a transmission a cooling system a giant electronic brain. maybe there is not enough call for the expense but robots could make stoves

You obviously have no idea how much time and money goes into r&d testing certification etc.

 

[EbS-P]

but robots could make stoves

They will in the future.

 

[mr meener]

you sell stoves so I can understand you. do they have to spend R&R money on every stove they make or just one time? . it is still a steel box. any company with half a brain can see a successful design copy it and just change it a little not to get in trouble

 

[Todd]

That is not what drove prices up

What did? Just a coincidence I guess.

 

[bholler]

you sell stoves so I can understand you. do they have to spend R&R money on every stove they make or just one time? . it is still a steel box. any company with half a brain can see a successful design copy it and just change it a little not to get in trouble

They have to do r&d on each stove model. Pay for ul and epa testing and certification. Plus all of the other associated operating costs. And why do you think companies like sbi and us stove works are cheaper plus the cheaper materials etc. They generally just copy designs and dont innovate. We would still be using basic open fireplaces is everyone thought that way.

 

[mr meener]

you are giving the reasons why businesses were driven out of the US. instead of making so many models they should stick to one or two to eliminate the rotten EPA whose real goal is the elimination of all types of stoves wood coal pellets

 

[bholler]

you are giving the reasons why businesses were driven out of the US. instead of making so many models they should stick to one or two to eliminate the rotten EPA whose real goal is the elimination of all types of stoves wood coal pellets

Actually no the epa goal is to make better and more efficient stoves. And it has worked very well. There isn't even any regulation on coal stoves by the epa. And all pellet stoves easily passed the standards with no modifications. Now can you give me a list of stove companies that have been driven out of the usa through these regulations?