My mistake. What I had meant to say is:Not so, some 2020 compliant stoves have been selling for a good part of 2019.
If it has already been tested using the 2020 standard and method no change would be needed. The regency pro line needed no physical changes but they had to be retested and renamed in the 2020 compliant version.The dealers around us were blowing out their inventory of 2019 models. I was looking at a Quadra-fire, and the old models were being made to order until the end of the year, with 3-6 wk wait times.
I bought a 2019 Pacific Energy Summit LE Insert, and it was already under the 2020 spec, so I don't believe it is changing for the new regs.
It depends what regulations you are referring toCan you tell me who sets the regulations for stoves in the US? Or is this an industry standard? Here in my part of Canada the standard is set by my city. (We just installed a Regency that is compliant with city regulations).
In Canada we adopt the CSA B415 emissions standards. This CSA standard is the same as the EPA at a max of 2.5 g/hr.Can you tell me who sets the regulations for stoves in the US? Or is this an industry standard? Here in my part of Canada the standard is set by my city. (We just installed a Regency that is compliant with city regulations).
It is pretty much the same in the us as wellIn Canada we adopt the CSA B415 emissions standards. This CSA standard is the same as the EPA at a max of 2.5 g/hr.
Montreal just implemented the standards a year early, and required all old non EPA 2020 compliant appliances to be replaced with new versions due to poor air quality.
Most other jurisdictions in Canada have allowed all older appliance to remain in operation, just new ones must comply with the new standards.
Not necessarily it depends on the model you have.Thanks. So even though the Regency we bought and installed was bought in 2019 it is 2020 compliant, so the "2020" refers to EPA /CSA standard and not when the stove was manufactured? (I understand the emissions figure is for only when using the catalytic converter?)
The deadline for the sale of Step 1 heaters (those not meeting EPA's 2020 requirements) is the same for all vested parties. The rule call distributors and retailers "commercial owners". Manufacturers and commercial owners can make and sell Step 1 heaters until May 15, 2020. EPA did not provide a "sell through" period as has been provided in the past rule makings.My mistake. What I had meant to say is:
My understanding of the rule is the *manufacturers* cannot sell 2020-noncompliant units (to retailers) after 12/31/19.
.. and that retailers then have until 5/31 to sell non-2020 stock.
Isn't the F45 V2 approved too?Well, being a huge Jotul fan for years and years, the F500 is still my favorite full cast stove. While I'm glad to see Jotul keep her and get it approved, it is different. Its price increase isn't helping either. With just the Oslo and 602 approved now, it leaves Jotul way behind. This company has been around since 1853, I do believe it will survive. We sell a lot of gas stoves and Jotul fills that nicely. What the new specs have done is make stoves like Osburn and the new Regency 2451 cast insert more popular.