BK Sirocco 25 insert

[DaHole]

Hi all,

I posted this thread with some pictures.

Help with old brick fireplace

I think I have settled on the BK Sirocco insert and have read a ton of different threads on putting the insert in. i am fairly handy and an do most home and auto maintenance tasks myself. Just repiped the water I the whole house In a weekend for example. My question is this. Should I decide to do the install myself, how much time should I budget for the project. I will need to put a new insulated 6 inch liner down the current clay tile flue as part of it. I have many other projects to do so time will factor into the decision. while we are at it given the pictures in the attached previous thread, is anyone willing to throw out a price range to hire the install?

 

[xshmoox]

That seems like it would be a fairly easy install giving chimney clay tile size probably will take you longer to insulate the liner then get it down it. Only issue I think you’ll have is trying to run low with your chimney height in milder weather. But if you have a hand to help with install and move the insert in I’d figure a few hours prep on the fireplace cutting damper/making a block off plate. Then probably another 4-8 hours to finish the install. It’s really not that difficult especially with your shorter chimney. More than likely to have someone install that insert you’re gonna be in the 5500-6,000 range. If you’re having second thoughts about draft issues I’d look at PE inserts next. The draft very well. I had a super on a 12’ chimney height had no problems with smoke spillage or draft.

 

[Sailrmike]

Hi all,

I posted this thread with some pictures.

Help with old brick fireplace

I think I have settled on the BK Sirocco insert and have read a ton of different threads on putting the insert in. i am fairly handy and an do most home and auto maintenance tasks myself. Just repiped the water I the whole house In a weekend for example. My question is this. Should I decide to do the install myself, how much time should I budget for the project. I will need to put a new insulated 6 inch liner down the current clay tile flue as part of it. I have many other projects to do so time will factor into the decision. while we are at it given the pictures in the attached previous thread, is anyone willing to throw out a price range to hire the install?

Make sure that you check with your homeowner insurance co, most require install to be done by a licensed pro.

 

[Riteway]

I'm a relatively handy guy and was able to install an insert myself, with an extra couple guys to help me lift it on the hearth. Saved me about $1.5k in labor costs, based upon the install quote I got (which didn't include a block-off plate). Assuming you have all the materials and tools you need on-site, it will probably take a weekend. Maybe even one long day. Of course, there's always the potential of running into a snag somewhere or needing to order an additional part which can tack on some time. For example, I realized halfway through my install that I needed an elbow stove connector, instead of a straight appliance connector.

 

[spudman99]

I did a self install on my Princess insert last October. I had to bust out the terra cotta tiles from 35' up to fit an insulated liner. We pulled the liner up rather than down, easier for me not to have to drag all that weight up so high and muscle it around. My install thread here

Starting my Liner Install

Well the day is finally here. I picked up a BK Princess Insert on Thursday along with a liner and insulation kit. On Saturday I set up my ladders and roof jacks to begin my terra cotta break out. I am not showing the ladder photographs because I know it would send Bholler into cardiac...

www.hearth.com

It can and has been done before DIY. Just take your time to read and watch videos to make sure you have the right clearances, tools and safety equipment. Took me a moderate weekend to break out all the tiles, then one day to put in the liner and connection. Couple hours to fabricate the block off plate before sliding in the insert. I used an engine hoist to move the unit from outside to inside and then drop it on the hearth to slide into fireplace. Wasn't too bad.

 

[DaHole]

My stove arrives tomorrow. I need to figure out how to open up the damper space to allow the 6 inch liner and then the block off plate. The whole inside of the fireplace has a steel wall. My other big issue is chimney height. Actual height of the masonry is only 11 feet so I am now trying to figure out how to get an extra 4 feet to get to 15’ as recommended.

 

[spudman99]

There are others with more experience than I, but hope this helps.

You can cut out a section of the rear of the steel firebox with a reciprocating saw and bi-metal blade, starting at the open damper. Cut out a 10" wide by perhaps a 6" deep section. Since you are going to install a block-off plate anyway (I hope you will), the size of this cut is not critical. Just make it large enough to fit the insulated damper and leave room to maneuver the liner front or back/side to side to connect to the appliance adapter.

You will have to put a section of class A pipe on top of the chimney to achieve the 15' desired flue, plus the cap. You will be able to secure the pipe extension to the chimney top. Something like this goes on top of the chimney which secures to the flexible liner below, and then you attach the 4' class A pipe extension and secure with the appropriate brackets or rods.

 

[DaHole]

Given the size of my clay tile, should I even use flexible or should I just go with solid wall stainless?

 

[begreen]

Given the size of my clay tile, should I even use flexible or should I just go with solid wall stainless?

That's your choice. A heavy-duty flex liner should be as good as a solid liner, with a lot less joints.