Harman P61 Esp light on fan on full

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Okay now I'm really confused, after reading the manual. You guys are saying that if I'm in room mode set the temp for 75 it should run all day looking for 75 degrees. When it hits 75 it should lower or raise temp, but not go out. And in control mode it should look for 75 (4) and do the same thing. When I first was testing it in room mode it shut off, it didn't lower the heat. Last night I started it in controlled heat it was on 50 or 1 and still is. I switched it over to ignitor off, room mode, still on 50 and it ran all night and is still running now at 80 ish. This is at the external sensor. It's been running at the same flame temperature since last night. According to the manual it should be somewhere around 50 and I image barely running which it hasn't done. Help me out. I'm posting a pic of my settings.

You are interpreting opposite of what we and the manual are saying.

If it is in Room Temp / Ingniter Auto, the stove will shut down when it hits just above the set point (1-1.5*F). So, the stove acted appropriately. It will restart itself if the temperature gets 1-1.5*F below the set temp.

If it is in Room Temp / Ingniter Manual, then it will go to idle when it hits just above the set point then increase the feed rate when it gets to just below the set point.
 
I put it on stove mode, set on 75 and it's pumping out the pellets, despite being set on 75 it's giving it more heat. The temp at the sensor is 84. Wtf is going on. The manual says it should keep it at 75, but isn't and it never did it on the old one either. 84 was what it's putting out on room mode set on 50 ( all night). I'm totally lost.

The manual says that stove mode will keep a steady pellet usage.

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It is not going by temp, but the inside setting (of 5)

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You are interpreting opposite of what we and the manual are saying.

If it is in Room Temp / Ingniter Auto, the stove will shut down when it hits just above the set point (1-1.5*F). So, the stove acted appropriately. It will restart itself if the temperature gets 1-1.5*F below the set temp.

If it is in Room Temp / Ingniter Manual, then it will go to idle when it hits just above the set point then increase the feed rate when it gets to just below the set point.
Okay so it's as low as it can go when I leave it on room temp ignitor off over night? I know it's lower then 1, when I started it last night once it it got running on control burn set on 1 the flame dropped. It got down to 37 over night, inside went down to 69 and it's slowly climbing as the day progresses until it hits ( hot enough around 75-77) and I switch it over to the Quad.
 
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What I'm trying to accomplish is not have stoves turning on and off all day and the Quad starts way quicker stays on longer, because the thermostat is 10-15 feet away vs the Harman is 5 feet away.
 
I put it on stove mode, set on 75 and it's pumping out the pellets, despite being set on 75 it's giving it more heat
Remember there are two scales on that dial. One is for Room Temp, and one is for Stove Heat Setting. 75F in Stove Mode would be a heat setting of 5. If you want to idle in stove mode, turn the dial all the way down. That will burn minimum pellets also.
 
What I'm trying to accomplish is not have stoves turning on and off all day and the Quad starts way quicker stays on longer, because the thermostat is 10-15 feet away vs the Harman is 5 feet away.
Also, the lowest BTU rating stove will be best for running all the time, and not getting too hot or shutting down/restarting
 
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Remember there are two scales on that dial. One is for Room Temp, and one is for Stove Heat Setting. 75F in Stove Mode would be a heat setting of 5. If you want to idle in stove mode, turn the dial all the way down. That will burn minimum pellets also.
And of course have the external sensor plugged in. I ran it all this and last winter with out the sensor hooked up and it gave me way more heat then 50f. What would the default temp be. I just went on previous experience and never really paid attention other then on a day like today with out the external sensor hooked up 1 would cook me out. And not go into idle. So on a day like today, if I were to go back to control ( stove mode) on 1 (50f) it shouldn't change out put temps just stay where it is? Also would the fan turn off if I returned to stove mode or just run on low? I'm in room mode ignitor off right now on set on 1/50f. And of course the fans not running. The external sensor is reading 80f. Or at least the thermometer is which is sitting right beside it.
 
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And of course have the external sensor plugged in. I ran it all this and last winter with out the sensor hooked up and it gave me way more heat then 50f. What would the default temp be. I just went on previous experience and never really paid attention other then on a day like today with out the external sensor hooked up 1 would cook me out. And not go into idle. So on a day like today, if I were to go back to control ( stove mode) on 1 (50f) it shouldn't change out put temps just stay where it is? Also would the fan turn off if I returned to stove mode or just run on low? I'm in room mode ignitor off right now on set on 1/50f. And of course the fans not running. The external sensor is reading 80f. Or at least the thermometer is which is sitting right beside it.
Yes, on stove mode, at minimum dial setting, the stove will just maintain a minimum heat, maybe 250F or so. I ran mine like that for months when I first got it. The blower will probably never come on. If the switch is down for sure it won't come on. That is called "Romance Mode" in the link "What Your Manual Does Not Tell You ect" post which I hope you have read. It tells you all the tricks.
 
Yes, on stove mode, at minimum dial setting, the stove will just maintain a minimum heat, maybe 250F or so. I ran mine like that for months when I first got it. The blower will probably never come on. If the switch is down for sure it won't come on. That is called "Romance Mode" in the link "What Your Manual Does Not Tell You ect" post which I hope you have read. It tells you all the tricks.
No haven't seen it, I sent you a private message, if you have the time and patience can you call me, I've noticed the fan speed below half way seems to not change speeds on control/stove mode. Only way to stop it is either turn the stove off or turn ignitor off. Mind you I haven't been using the external sensor because I was under the impression it only worked on room mode. I'd also like to check stove temps using your findings. As mine are invalid with the mirror window.
 
Can I assume the stove puts out the same heat in control mode as in room mode ignitor off except the fans off?
Here is that link:

Control Mode - This is called Stove Mode. Remember, you don't have 100% control over the Room Blower. The control card runs it. You can only change the speed using the dial. You can only set it to Max, or minimum. In room mode it will turn the blower off also once the room is up to temperature. You don't control it.
 
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Here is that link:

Control Mode - This is called Stove Mode. Remember, you don't have 100% control over the Room Blower. The control card runs it. You can only change the speed using the dial. You can only set it to Max, or minimum. In room mode it will turn the blower off also once the room is up to temperature. You don't control it.
This completely changes my understanding of how it works. I've been running it with out the external sensor hooked up, turning the heat up as required not knowing that in stove mode it should do it. I just set it on a given number (not a temperature) and turned it up according to the resulting out put. Turn it up or down manually. Or preset it before going to bed. This means I'm going to have to relearn my winter operation tremendously.
 
This completely changes my understanding of how it works. I've been running it with out the external sensor hooked up, turning the heat up as required not knowing that in stove mode it should do it. I just set it on a given number (not a temperature) and turned it up according to the resulting out put. Turn it up or down manually. Or preset it before going to bed. This means I'm going to have to relearn my winter operation tremendously.
Another unrelated question, how often do you clean it out. I'm used to running it 24/7 and did it maybe once every 2-3 weeks. But it wasn't pushing the new pellets over the ashes. I also started it manually, again not pushing the new pellets over the ash pile. I do scrape it out if there's a big pile in it but you'd think it would jam it up. When I did it every 2-3 weeks I'd clean the pile out and start it with fresh pellets in the pot. Also scrap it while running maybe twice a day. So no big pile to push every time I started it. Now it's on and off a couple of times a day. Just trying to stay ahead of dirt problem.
 
Another unrelated question, how often do you clean it out. I'm used to running it 24/7 and did it maybe once every 2-3 weeks. But it wasn't pushing the new pellets over the ashes. I also started it manually, again not pushing the new pellets over the ash pile. I do scrape it out if there's a big pile in it but you'd think it would jam it up. When I did it every 2-3 weeks I'd clean the pile out and start it with fresh pellets in the pot. Also scrap it while running maybe twice a day. So no big pile to push every time I started it. Now it's on and off a couple of times a day. Just trying to stay ahead of dirt problem.
I do quick clean everyday, or second day, depending on the time of year. A quick clean I can do as long as it's been shut off for about an hour. Sometimes the combustion blower is still running which is good. I clear the burn pot, scrape the burn pot, vacuum the bottom edge of the glass, vacuum the lip of the burn pot above the igniter, then clean the glass with damp paper towel. Once the ash pan is getting full, I do a deep clean. The stove needs to be off for hours if I'm doing that.
 
I do quick clean everyday, or second day, depending on the time of year. A quick clean I can do as long as it's been shut off for about an hour. Sometimes the combustion blower is still running which is good. I clear the burn pot, scrape the burn pot, vacuum the bottom edge of the glass, vacuum the lip of the burn pot above the igniter, then clean the glass with damp paper towel. Once the ash pan is getting full, I do a deep clean. The stove needs to be off for hours if I'm doing that.
Yup it takes 3 weeks of constant running to fill it up. I do the same short of the glass, second cleaning in 5 days.
 
Here is that link:

Control Mode - This is called Stove Mode. Remember, you don't have 100% control over the Room Blower. The control card runs it. You can only change the speed using the dial. You can only set it to Max, or minimum. In room mode it will turn the blower off also once the room is up to temperature. You don't control it.
I guess if we post it enough times here……..