Heat-Maxx wood stove heat reclaimer

[stovelark]

Well, interesting read anyway, Ray is pretty elusive. Think he came in, tried to get some attention and then went away. The best thing to do is try and get the right stove for your area, that's always the better goal. I'm with Webby, my wife never has liked the looks of our stoves, just their heat! The funny thing is, she loves our propane stoves (A Jotul and a Hearthstone). I had a Jotul Oslo for years and a Hearthstone Phoenix but she never had the same affection for them-LOL. Anyway, something for nothing, just not achievable. Go away Ray. Stay warm.

 

[Heat Maxx]

And an 80% increase in chimney fires!

Hello kborndale, long time no talk. Just received pics last week from one of our 2 year case studies. Please see attached pic of unit that did not get cleaned for those two years. Check the buildup and I would like to here your thoughts. While ash is present, no heavy black glaze creosote which I think everyone was predicting. I also have included a pic from our application which shows the general working of Heat-Maxx. Thanks for your help and hope you are well. Ray

 

[begreen]

That is not necessarily proof of safety or appropriateness, especially for low efficiency stoves. The amount of creosote deposited is going to be in direct proportion to the amount of volatiles heading up the flue. With a very clean burning setup the accumulation may be less. It would be good to also document creosote deposits up high and at the top of the chimney system after this stack robber, where the chimney is exposed to cold air and the flue gases are further cooled down.

 

[Heat Maxx]

This concept seems smart. I would love to have/review one!!

The concept in theory behind this is impressive. I don't know if anybody who uses them, but I would love to try then review them.

Hi gbk9cop, did 2 more years of R&D with very positive results, I can forward testimonials if you wish and if you would like a unit
6 inch only for now, shoot me an email and we can get you one sent out. Thanks Ray

 

[Heat Maxx]

That is not necessarily proof of safety or appropriateness, especially for low efficiency stoves. The amount of creosote deposited is going to be in direct proportion to the amount of volatiles heading up the flue. With a very clean burning setup the accumulation may be less. It would be good to also document creosote deposits up high and at the top of the chimney system after this stack robber, where the chimney is exposed to cold air and the flue gases are further cooled down.

Here's a shot of his stove. I can forward you his testimonial by email if you wish. Thanks Ray

 

[EatenByLimestone]

I like this game! Here’s a shot of my truck! You can see from the picture how well it runs!

 

[EatenByLimestone]

I like this game! Here’s a shot of my truck! You can see from the picture how well it runs!

Now we don’t know if it’s driven once a year or every day, but you can see it’s nice and clean.

 

[Heat Maxx]

I like this game! Here’s a shot of my truck! You can see from the picture how well it runs!

I like this game too, so you don't believe testimonials where it was used for 2 years on common and EPA stoves. You won't operate one yourself to see how it works. What can open your mind to a different idea my friend? I just offered one to gbk9cop, I suppose if he replies with a positive comment, will you deny that happened too?

 

[Heat Maxx]

Now we don’t know if it’s driven once a year or every day, but you can see it’s nice and clean.

That's good, but apples to oranges comparison

 

[kborndale]

I like this game too, so you don't believe testimonials where it was used for 2 years on common and EPA stoves. You won't operate one yourself to see how it works. What can open your mind to a different idea my friend? I just offered one to gbk9cop, I suppose if he replies with a positive comment, will you deny that happened too?

It's not a different idea, it's been around for decades. It takes heat out of the flue and puts it into the room which is not a good thing. Heat with the stove not the flue.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

Care to tell us how it works without removing heat from the exhaust yet?

It’s not apples to oranges. You haven’t told us how much the 2 stoves you tested were actually used.

 

[EatenByLimestone]

If the stoves were used once each year I’d expect the buildup to be much different than if 10 cords went through each year.

 

[Heat Maxx]

It's not a different idea, it's been around for decades. It takes heat out of the flue and puts it into the room which is not a good thing. Heat with the stove not the flue.

That's completely incorrect, the stove does heat the shop. The Heat-Maxx puts out additional 25,000 btu on the 30K btu stove. By your statement of all this temperature loss it should be jammed solid with creosote after 2 years. It burns under all conditions, meaning temperatures without the creosote buildup you described should happen. But it did not build up. I can send you the case study on temps and types of fires ( very low burn, common burn meaning average fire and high output burn) with daily temps in an excel spreadsheet, Same with pics of temp gun on the pipe vs with the unit installed but I think you would just say anyone can make up a spreadsheet with numbers on it and anyone can take fake pics.

 

[Heat Maxx]

If the stoves were used once each year I’d expect the buildup to be much different than if 10 cords went through each year.

That all depends on what temperature fire you are running. 2023 was one of the warmest years on record. It ran at low burn temps 120-220 much more than normal years. I can email you the study if you wish. email is ray@heat-maxx.com I appreciate you input and comments. Ray

 

[Heat Maxx]

Care to tell us how it works without removing heat from the exhaust yet?

It’s not apples to oranges. You haven’t told us how much the 2 stoves you tested were actually used.

Everyday, if you would like to see the emails and case studies. Thanks again Eatenbylimestone

 

[Woodsplitter67]

Everyday, if you would like to see the emails and case studies. Thanks again Eatenbylimestone

Dude.. please go pedal your garbage someplace else. The people here are actually educated and understand stoves and maintenance.

Taking heat out of the stovepipe is not a good idea period.. it cools the stovepipe creating weak draft and creosote.

 

[Heat Maxx]

Dude.. please go pedal your garbage someplace else. The people here are actually educated and understand stoves and maintenance.

Taking heat out of the stovepipe is not a good idea period.. it cools the stovepipe creating weak draft and creosote.

Well I guess the great and powerful Oz has spoken

 

[stoveliker]

In my view there's a very limited set of stoves still in operation where this thing might have some benefits.
It's old smoke dragons without even a baffle.
But even then, it should only be running when one runs the stove high enough to get that pipe so hot that only ashes deposit there (as in the pic).

And if not, every now and then it still needs to get hot enough to burn the deposits down to grey as in the pic.
I.e. the old fashioned chimney cleaning with a mild chimney fire. And the thing should be close to the stove top.

Other than that, claims that heat is extracted without cooling the gases deserves the Nobel prize in physics. As so far all of physics tells us that is a thermodynamic impossibility.

 

[Heat Maxx]

In my view there's a very limited set of stoves still in operation where this thing might have some benefits.
It's old smoke dragons without even a baffle.
But even then, it should only be running when one runs the stove high enough to get that pipe so hot that only ashes deposit there (as in the pic).

And if not, every now and then it still needs to get hot enough to burn the deposits down to grey as in the pic.
I.e. the old fashioned chimney cleaning with a mild chimney fire. And the thing should be close to the stove top.

Other than that, claims that heat is extracted without cooling the gases deserves the Nobel prize in physics. As so far all of physics tells us that is a thermodynamic impossibility.

Thank you stoveliker, I appreciate your opinion and input. Have a blessed evening

 

[begreen]

And on that note... Say goodnight Gracie.