Help with new Enviro P3 stove

Powergirl Posted By Powergirl, Nov 18, 2017 at 4:50 PM

  1. Powergirl

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    The person who installed it inspects The city doesn’t require an actual inspection anymore but we had to get a WETT inspection for insurance and those eyes guys are certified to give it


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    >>>> ya I'd CHAT with them to.. hmmm wonder how i got the nickname lol
     
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    Yes husband is ready to go tell them to pull the stove out.


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    I was guessing it was 3" from stove to ceiling then she said it went to 8"
     
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    They must not have looked at the manual because the Authority with Jurisdiction is the Manufacturer. And I can tell you with 100 percent certainty Enviro will tell you this is not allowed. Not only is the EVL which means equivalent vent length well over 25, that hook up would mandate a 4 inch pellet pipe going into a 4inch approved liner. It's not possible to get the needed draft on an everyday basis. On a windy day the wind will come down that seven inch double wall pipe. And at 25 feet in length a combustion fan with positive draft does not have the power to draft that distance to expell the exhaust gasses properly. Are these folks NFI certified? I'm not saying this can't be fixed but it needs a 4 in pipe going into a four inch liner to be proper.
     
  7. Powergirl

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    So we have the wrong kind of stove for the building that it is in?


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  8. Ssyko

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    no your stove is fine its the vent pipe and its instalation
     
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    Jeff study the pic it may be 4". if the OAK is 3"

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    And you can't draw air from a crawl space which I assume is under there.
     
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    i wasn't gonna go there. lol
     
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    3PVP stands for 3 inch pellet vent pro. I would think a fair thing to do would be for them to come back and put in 4 inch pipe and a ten foot piece of 4 inch liner. That would solve the issue. And pay for the aggravation. This is why people should be NFI certified like the manual requests.
     
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    And I'm not sure if this stove calls for 6 or 9 inches of spark resistant material in front of the stove.
     
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    It is not really a crawlspace it is actually open the cabin is built on pillars I can actually crawl under there from the outside


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    The woodstove was vented from underneath there too and it was there for 25 years


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    The little item it sits on is the actual board from enviro that goes with that stove


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    Very Professional and diplomatic!
     
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    Thanks. We are going to try a different setting tonight I am going to increase the combustion trimmed feed. We have not done that yet it is still on the factory setting will try one more thing before we end up showing up at the store to discuss this with them.

    I really do thank all of you for your feedback at least this gives me something that I can talk with them about so I sound a little bit like I know what I’m actually talking about


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  20. Ssyko

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    open the damper a bit more also. If you keep the stove i would do the damper rod mod so you can change the damper on the fly.

    Jeff and Bob been teaching me too
     
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    We will have to look into don’t know about the Damper rod model


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    once you get the stove working correctly we can go into modifying the stove lol
     
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    Regardless of whether it works tonight or not the chimney needs to be installed properly. When them Canadian nights get cold and the air pressure is forcing down you're not going to want that stove not venting properly. If the Dealer doesn't agree I'll give you the name and email of the person at Enviro to talk to. People go on these sites to read about how a stove is working and this thread doesn't shed a good light on this stove when it's really the chimneys fault. Go buy a new car with dual exhaust and stick a potato in one exhaust and see how it runs lol.
     
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    Thank you.

    I appreciate that. I just may be taking you up on getting a contact at in Enviro I can talk to you


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    I see nothing wrong with the instillation other than the vent design
    could have been better for inside the building . If the pipe had been turned
    gone through the wall then turned up and run to a termination point above roof line
    every one would have said what a nice installation . If the 3 inch or 4 inch pipe is
    installed to a class A insulated stove pipe then it meets Canadian code .
    Envrio shows not max. for elevation only suggests 5 feet elevation on throw
    the wall applications . I will not address the stoves operation other than to say
    If burn pot is not locked into slots you get a very poor dirty fire that will overflow
    the pot in just hours (combustion air not being sent into the pot ) Also this stove is in BC
    what is the elevation of installation. The higher up the more air it needs so open the
    slider a little more . Oak insulation is good as long as the crawl space is permanently
    vented to outside air . You have a work horses of a stove that will give you more heat
    than you will need just keep it clean
    That is my 2 cents worth
     
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