I took the EV jump!

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EatenByLimestone

Minister of Fire
I bought an electric lawnmower! I know, not as exciting as a car, but its the 1st lawnmower I ever bought! Baby steps, lol. I've always gotten them free off the side of the road. Most of them only needed a carb cleaning. Its been a working strategy for over 20 years.

Its 56v, and handled my monsoon fed grass better than my old 6hp gas powered Toro did. I still stalled it out, but it did rain almost every day this month and I cut it a little shorter than normal. A stress test of sorts. I only got 15-20 minutes out of the battery that "will last up to an hour", but the grass was much thicker and longer than normal. I think it'll cut the whole lawn without issue.

Anyway, I'm a bit tickled with the new toy, I mean tool.
 

clancey

Minister of Fire
Feb 26, 2021
2,037
Colorado
I bought mine years ago and I love it and they do not do well in damp grass because the blades get goey and they clog up before the entrance to the bag..But as far as cutting is concerned they do great and there is no gasoline smell as well--I love mine..clancey
 

EatenByLimestone

Minister of Fire
I didn't try to bag anything. I'm sure that would been a lesson in frustration.
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
6,809
Northern NH
It is a nice electric application for a small homeowner with a small lawn. There are some designs that are part of a family of tools so the expensive battery plugs into many tools. Ideally at some point the grid will be smart enough so that the battery charger will pause during periods of high power demand and ideally charge when the grid demand is low but that in the future for now.

A lot of the reasons why gas motors end up on the side of the road is bad gas and not draining and running them dry at the end of the season. The alternative is expansive ethanol free gas if someone can find it. With an electric lawnmower, no maintenance except for blade sharpening. When my gas mower dies this time around I plan to get one.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
6,442
Downeast Maine
Our next walk behind will probably be electric. I'm hoping Dewalt comes out with one since I already have plenty of batteries.
 

EatenByLimestone

Minister of Fire
It is a nice electric application for a small homeowner with a small lawn. There are some designs that are part of a family of tools so the expensive battery plugs into many tools. Ideally at some point the grid will be smart enough so that the battery charger will pause during periods of high power demand and ideally charge when the grid demand is low but that in the future for now.

A lot of the reasons why gas motors end up on the side of the road is bad gas and not draining and running them dry at the end of the season. The alternative is expansive ethanol free gas if someone can find it. With an electric lawnmower, no maintenance except for blade sharpening. When my gas mower dies this time around I plan to get one.

Yeah, I bought the EGO brand. I think they even have a snowblower. I can't imagine how miserable a foot of wet snow would be with a small battery in the cold, but i'll tell you in 20 years, lol. I've never had to buy one of them either! I was given a small Ariens, then inherited a larger MTD.

I'm not sure there will ever be a grid capacity issue with charging drill batteries. And this is a really big drill battery, lol. At least I hope not. If there ever is one, it'd probably be easier to quietly make all the chargers trickle chargers rather than fast chargers.

A 56 volt hammer drill with a 7.5 amp hour battery... that would be sweet!
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
6,809
Northern NH
My guess is 5 to 10 years down the road gasoline powered outdoor power equipment may not be sold. I have seen studies and equipment like lawn mowers and other OPE really add up to quite a lot of pollution and fossil use.
 

EatenByLimestone

Minister of Fire
I don't know if it'll be gone, but more people will certainly look at the technology as their current equipment wears out. Batteries have a finite range for an acceptable weight and acceptable cost. Once you push past those limits, it'll get expensive fast. I can see it for a 1/3 to 1/2 acre suburban lawn serviced by a homeowner who can run inside and chill while the battery recharges. It'd be hard for a commercial operation to run electric. The amount of energy they need would require a lot of batteries and there wouldn't be time to recharge.

But I could see a niche market for a premium service. Some people would pay more to have their lawn serviced all electric. I saw an electric zero turn mower, but I don't know how many square feet it'll mow before it needs a charge or battery swap.
 

begreen

Mooderator
Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
91,355
South Puget Sound, WA
I wish that Cub Cadet had done a better job with their LT1 electric riding mower. Unfortunately, it seems plagued with problems and the dealers appear to be untrained at making electrical systems repairs. Owner satisfaction is not high, so I wait with the hope of seeing good improvements. Even better would be an electric LT2.
I did get rid of the Echo leaf blower. It worked great, but was 2 stroke. I already have a couple 18v Makita batteries and charger so I got their leaf blower that takes 2 batteries for 36v operation. I love it for quick blowing off of the mower, clearing the deck and patio of debris, etc. It is powerful, instant, and much quieter.
 

jebatty

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Jan 1, 2008
5,794
Northern MN
Yeah, I bought the EGO brand. I think they even have a snowblower. I can't imagine how miserable a foot of wet snow would be with a small battery in the cold, but i'll tell you in 20 years, lol. I've never had to buy one of them either! I was given a small Ariens, then inherited a larger MTD.

I'm not sure there will ever be a grid capacity issue with charging drill batteries. And this is a really big drill battery, lol. At least I hope not. If there ever is one, it'd probably be easier to quietly make all the chargers trickle chargers rather than fast chargers.

A 56 volt hammer drill with a 7.5 amp hour battery... that would be sweet!
Hammer drill would be sweet. We also have four of the Ego brand tools. My wife especially likes the self-propelled lawnmower. We do not use the bagger. That has the 7.5 amp battery. I also bought the Ego chain saw, 5 amp battery. Instant start, no exhaust fumes, quiet, really good on limbing and small trees. Then we got the weed whip and lastly the leaf blower, 2.5 amp batteries. All batteries are 56 volts and work on all of the Ego tools.

Have to say my wife and I are on a mission to rid the household of fossil fuel use. Hence also the solar PV system and Chevy Bolt and Tesla Model 3 vehicles.
 

begreen

Mooderator
Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
91,355
South Puget Sound, WA
Have to say my wife and I are on a mission to rid the household of fossil fuel use.
I hear you. We are too. The chain saw and leaf blower were the first to go The log splitter is next. That will leave us with the large riding mower and the Stihl weed eater. The Stihl is a commercial model with handlebars and harness. We have too large an area to do with just a handheld. Does EGO have a commercial weedeater?
 

EatenByLimestone

Minister of Fire
They have one, not sure how heavy duty it is.


 

Solarguy3500

Member
Dec 3, 2020
211
Western MA
I got the EGO string trimmer (not the commercial model) this spring and I really like it. It's way more powerful than the gas one it replaced.

My father in law works at HD and got it for himself last year intending to use it on his lawn. He never opened the box and then decided to hire someone to mow his lawn instead, so he gave it to me. It has the 2.5 AH battery which I usually have to charge up once or twice in order to get all my trimming done, but it only takes about half an hour to charge so I can busy myself with other tasks while I'm waiting. Ideally, I'd like to get the 5 AH battery but it costs about as much as the whole tool, so for now I'll just do my trimming in stages.

When I get tired of splitting wood by hand with an axe, I'm going to get the Swisher 22 ton electric log splitter so I can avoid another gas engine there. Then I'll just have my gas zero turn mower and lawn tractor for the hilly parts I don't dare do with the zero turn.
 

begreen

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Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
91,355
South Puget Sound, WA
I've seen this shot on Home Depot's and EGO's site, but have not found a good source for an EGO commercial string trimmer with the handlebars. The handlebars are not even listed on the EGO commercial website.
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EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
1,722
SE North Carolina
My father just replaced his lead acid batteries for a second time for his black and decker mower that he has had now for 15 + years. 70$ shipped. He’s getting 6-8 years out of the batteries. It can’t mow the whole yard in single Charge but that’s not a big deal. Wonder how expensive replacement batteries will be down the road for all this equipment.
Evan
 

stoveliker

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Nov 17, 2019
2,912
Long Island NY
My father just replaced his lead acid batteries for a second time for his black and decker mower that he has had now for 15 + years. 70$ shipped. He’s getting 6-8 years out of the batteries. It can’t mow the whole yard in single Charge but that’s not a big deal. Wonder how expensive replacement batteries will be down the road for all this equipment.
Evan

Well, for lead acid, I guess not much different (apart from inflation) - this won't see a lot of development or scaling up anymore...?
 

peakbagger

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Jul 11, 2008
6,809
Northern NH
Well, for lead acid, I guess not much different (apart from inflation) - this won't see a lot of development or scaling up anymore...?
My guess is there will be drop in lithium based replacements. Apparently the big thing to do with Golf Carts in sunny climes these days is replace the lead acid batteries with Lithium batteries made up of reconfigured cells from old EV batteries.

More juice/more range/less weight makes grandpa and grandma happy;). My guess is there probably is someone retrofitting drive motors and electronics to go along with the batteries. As long as they build in a good BMS they are relatively safe.
 

semipro

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Jan 12, 2009
4,105
SW Virginia

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
6,809
Northern NH
My guess is the warranty is null and void after the attempt. Tesla's also weigh a lot which helps to keep them floating.

My unimog is rated for 1.4 meter water depth and was designed for it (most of the systems underwater are purged with low pressure air when in 4WD)
 

woodgeek

Minister of Fire
Jan 27, 2008
4,449
SE PA
My father just replaced his lead acid batteries for a second time for his black and decker mower that he has had now for 15 + years. 70$ shipped. He’s getting 6-8 years out of the batteries. It can’t mow the whole yard in single Charge but that’s not a big deal. Wonder how expensive replacement batteries will be down the road for all this equipment.
Evan

My guess is that the OEM will offer replacement batteries at eye-watering prices, and equivalent (or higher capacity) drop in packs will be available from Chinese makers at 40% of OEM cost. At least that has been my experience with every tool battery pack I have bought (replaced) in the last 10 years. For trimmers and things, I get the tool cheap with no pack (whenever possible) and then buy two chinese packs for the price of the OEM one.

I figure the cells inside the OEM pack are made in East Asia, probably down the road from the packs I am getting.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
6,442
Downeast Maine
My guess is that the OEM will offer replacement batteries at eye-watering prices, and equivalent (or higher capacity) drop in packs will be available from Chinese makers at 40% of OEM cost. At least that has been my experience with every tool battery pack I have bought (replaced) in the last 10 years. For trimmers and things, I get the tool cheap with no pack (whenever possible) and then buy two chinese packs for the price of the OEM one.

I figure the cells inside the OEM pack are made in East Asia, probably down the road from the packs I am getting.

Do you use the Dewalt 20v style batteries? I'm trying to find one of those micro electric saws that can work with my pile of Dewalt batteries.
 

woodgeek

Minister of Fire
Jan 27, 2008
4,449
SE PA
I have old Dewalt NiMH tools, forget the voltage. On my third round of NiMH packs after 16 years.
 

EatenByLimestone

Minister of Fire
I figured I'd do an update on the battery and mower now that I've used it a bit. I've found that I get 2 mowings off a single battery charge. If I get a rain delay, or change the mowing height, all bets are off, but regular mowings on my yard don't challenge my battery too much.

I dont like the self propelled feature. The drive wheels are on the back, so it just wants to keep rolling forward, which is irritating on a turn. I just keep it turned off. The kid likes ot though.
 
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