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handsplitter

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Apr 24, 2016
27
North Carolina
The leaves bloom purple in the spring, heart or spade shaped leaf, common in my are but I never knew the name. One fell in the neighbor hood, is it good firewood? Thank you

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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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South Puget Sound, WA
Interesting. I had to look up Judas Tree. The leaf looks like redbud which is in the same family. How big is the tree at the trunk and how tall?
 

CincyBurner

Feeling the Heat
Mar 10, 2015
406
SW Ohio
Yes, eastern redbud Cercis canadensis. http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=43
The twigs have a distinctive zig-zag pattern. The pinkish purple flowers, scaly reddish bark, heart-shaped leaves, and legume seed pods help make for an easy ID.
It's a legume, so wood is dense; however, its shrubby habit prevents it from gaining a large trunk diameter, but it is a dense wood (like black locust), so good firewood (what there is of it). But it'll probably need to season an extra year.
 

Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
10,664
Southern IN
Grab it. There is some mixed in here with Red Mulberry I believe (both yellow wood.) I'm a bit shaky on the ID but I think Mulberry might be the one with the distinct, light-colored sapwood. There's also Red Elm and Dogwood, all found dead in the woods.
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handsplitter

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Apr 24, 2016
27
North Carolina
Thanks very much guys.I looked up Judas tree but couldn't find if it is a harwood with decent BTU.
"How big is the tree at the trunk and how tall?" 8 inches at the maximum, say 20 feet tall. It is heavy wood but cut nicely with the chainsaw, but is is green & full of leaves so plenty water. I'll snag it, & in the meantime research further the eastern redbud Cercis canadensis. http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/factsheet.cfm?ID=43. And Thanks for the "let it season another year", meaning I'll also split a tad smaller than usual & probably split some limbs that Id normally leave as rounds/un-split
 

Kevin Weis

Minister of Fire
Mar 3, 2018
783
Union Bridge, Md
My experience is it dries fairly quickly, even with the bark on especially under 5". If you leave it in the sun and wind till November it might be dry enough by then.
 

handsplitter

Member
Apr 24, 2016
27
North Carolina
Yes I think it is redbud, was Judas a slang term? Yes I too think it will dry quick, it is light in weight and maybe it was dying yet it was full of leaves?
 

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CincyBurner

Feeling the Heat
Mar 10, 2015
406
SW Ohio
See attached link for the tale of the Judas tree. It's pretty much my recollection of the apocryphal story of the Judas tree.
http://capitalnaturalist.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-judas-tree.html

The few times I've burned it, it didn't burn well. Perhaps I burned it too soon, and it needed extra time to season like other Legumes ?
Since it's usually a small understory tree, you'll be lucky if you get a few pieces larger than 16" diameter.
 

Kevin Weis

Minister of Fire
Mar 3, 2018
783
Union Bridge, Md
The Black Birch I doubt, not native to that area but it could have been planted as an ornamental? The other yep a Cherry probably Choke or Black. But could be a ornamental Cherry of some sort. For firewood all would be okay though.
 

Woody5506

Minister of Fire
Feb 14, 2017
694
Rochester NY
Pin Cherry (same as choke?) is decent firewood, the problem is you really need to make sure its either de-barked or top covered well because that bark really traps moisture even for months after the rest of the wood has dried out. Been using it in the smoker lately too, and i think it's a better smoking wood than firewood quite honestly.