king PK130 which thru wall exh pipe kit to buy?

[Whitenuckler]

is there any reason i can't just run a straight exhaust pipe through a wall thimble.
with no 90 deg turns I don't see I'd need a riser pipe.
The exhaust hole in the wall will be 24 inched above the ground, very little grass gows there due to it being a side of the house that never gets sunlight, no overhanging trees etc.
I'm trying to save money.

Sometime it's required to get above the snow line and windows that open.

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

I'm no expert, but I think for good draw you need to be at least above the stove?

The USSC manual for the KP130 says vent through the wall at least 18" above ground and then a minimum 3 ' rise. They also talk about distances from the outside wall on the vertical rise, from doors, windows and the termination. I would imagine the requirements are the pretty much standard.

 

[gerard jones]

There is no reason not to .
But add an end cap to it and turn it away from the prevailing wind
EG 45 degrees down

do I need double walled pipe?

 

[ARC]

You need venting approved/certified for pellet stove use. It is double walled. but must be pellet stove certified. IE Natural gas venting is double wall but not approved for pellet stoves

 

[gerard jones]

You need venting approved/certified for pellet stove use. It is double walled. but must be pellet stove certified. IE Natural gas venting is double wall but not approved for pellet stoves

ok thanks, I'll just wait for my november SS payment to buy the proper exh kit.

 

[gerard jones]

I pulled the exh fan, all the nuts were rusted, I had to soak them and still needed an impact, broke one but I'll buy all new.
New exh fan gasket came. I'm stuck until the exhaust pipe kit comes in Nov.

 

[gerard jones]

ok I'm looking at this short horiz exh kit. Less than $200 , it would save me at least $120.
Can you see any problems ?
Installation would be fine outside, it would be almost 3 feet off the ground with no trees or bushes.
I notice it has no cleanout T pipe.
Will it be too close to the wall outside?

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[johneh]

That kit will get you through the wall and a termination cap.
You will need a length of pipe from your stove outlet to the pipe going through the wall
in an appropriate length to give you wall to back of stove clearance. A clean-out Tee is not necessary for a straight run
out the wall

 

[gerard jones]

That kit will get you through the wall and a termination cap.
You will need a length of pipe from your stove outlet to the pipe going through the wall
in an appropriate length to give you wall to back of stove clearance. A clean-out Tee is not necessary for a straight run
out the wall

its a pellet stove, not wood stove.

 

[ARC]

its a pellet stove, not wood stove.

Going to need at the very least 2 straight pieces probably 3 one to get to wall 1 to get through wall and one to get 1 foot away, of pellet pro straight pipe depending on how far from the wall your stove sets end needs to be 1 foot from outside wall. Also 3 foot vertical pipe is recommended so stove has natural draft during power outage. Remember if you buy Simpson Pellet Vent PRO kit then the straight pieces must also be simpson pellet vent pro. Other brands are not compatible with each other, duravent and selkirk will not work with simpson.

VENT TERMINATION CLEARANCES
H. Minimum 1-foot (0.3m) clearance horizontally from combustible wall.

 

[gerard jones]

Going to need at the very least 2 straight pieces probably 3 one to get to wall 1 to get through wall and one to get 1 foot away, of pellet pro straight pipe depending on how far from the wall your stove sets end needs to be 1 foot from outside wall. Also 3 foot vertical pipe is recommended so stove has natural draft during power outage. Remember if you buy Simpson Pellet Vent PRO kit then the straight pieces must also be simpson pellet vent pro. Other brands are not compatible with each other, duravent and selkirk will not work with simpson.

H. Minimum 1-foot (0.3m) clearance horizontally from combustible wall.

Yeh I believe the thimble has the pipe section already inside so it doesn't require a pass thru pipe.
Wood stove wall clearance is 18 inches, pellet only requires 3 inch.
My main concern was getting access to the thimble joint with the stove in place but looking at the stove I see the exh coupler isn't located in the middle of the back panel, its very close to the side.
I'm going to order it, if I need more space they sell a 6 inch section.
I'll post my result in a couple of weeks.

 

[ARC]

Yeh I believe the thimble has the pipe section already inside so it doesn't require a pass thru pipe.

Unless your seeing some thing I am not that thimble is just a thimble you need venting to go through it. The thimble just creates/guides you to the right clearances and creates a hole for your 3 inch pellet stove venting to go through. Nothing wrong with buying the set just keep in mind you will have to buy straight pipe and it will have to be by the same company. Unless you have very thin walls I would say you will need at least 2 pieces of straight pipe.

 

[gerard jones]

Unless your seeing some thing I am not that thimble is just a thimble you need venting to go through it. The thimble just creates/guides you to the right clearances and creates a hole for your 3 inch pellet stove venting to go through. Nothing wrong with buying the set just keep in mind you will have to buy straight pipe and it will have to be by the same company. Unless you have very thin walls I would say you will need at least 2 pieces of straight pipe.

What I'm seeing is , per the sketches , the design needs no thru pipe.
I'll ask them before ordering to make sure.

 

[Whitenuckler]

What I'm seeing is , per the sketches , the design needs no thru pipe.
I'll ask them before ordering to make sure.

The thimble has two pieces, each looks the same. The pipe attached to each piece slides together and forms the protection for the actual double wall pellet stove pipe within the wall cavity. Otherwise the double wall pellet pipe won't be supported away from combustibles.

 

[johneh]

Try reading the instructions given on the website!!
What everyone told you about the extra pipe is accurate

 

[ARC]

Instructions attached see figure 14. be aware simpson pro venting is one of the best pellet stove venting on the market it is also one of the higher priced venting.

1. Place your stove where it is going to be. If your stove requires a hearth pad, make sure the stove is on it.
2. Attach your appliance adapter to the stove using the included RTV sealant and at least 1 screw to the collar.
3. If you are going up inside the house, attach your clean out T and then build your venting upwards, attach your 90° Elbow and then mark the center point. Mark the center point where the venting meets the wall.
4. Using a drill bit that is longer than the depth of the wall, drill your center hole in the wall to the outside.
5. The black side of the thimble is the inner section and the galvanized is the exterior section. Using the black half of the thimble, trace it's annular tube at the center point where your hole is. This will be the line for removing the section of the wall. Do the same on the exterior of the wall with the galvanized half of the thimble.
6. Attach both halves the the thimble together through the wall.
7. Slide your straight length of pipe through the wall thimbles and attach it to the appliance adapter.
8. If you are creating your vertical rise on the exterior, just start attaching your venting to find the wall pass-through point, this is where you will cut your hole for the wall thimble. You will attach your clean out T to the venting outside.
9. Secure your wall thimble to the wall with screws. Always use exterior rated screws for the outside connection to avoid rust marks from developing.
10. Attach your horizontal cap to the end of the venting.

 

[gerard jones]

I cancelled the order, its not a kit , I don't have time , winter is already here in Maine.

I ordered the kit from amazon. plus silicone tape and rtv.

Amazon.com : England's Stove AC-3000 Pellet Stove Vent Kit, 3" : Ducting Components : Tools & Home Improvement

Amazon.com : England's Stove AC-3000 Pellet Stove Vent Kit, 3" : Ducting Components : Tools & Home Improvement

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[ARC]

I ordered the kit from amazon

Same company just a lower price/quality vent. It is what I used the most when I was installing. Lowes sells the same venting if you ever need replacement piece.

 

[Whitenuckler]

Same company just a lower price/quality vent. It is what I used the most when I was installing. Lowes sells the same venting if you ever need replacement piece.

My guy used 4 inch Excelpellet and I really like the internal silicon gaskets. There is no RTV or tape to be seen. I don't take it apart though to clean. I clean by using cleanout tee's. It's probably the most expensive? They sell the Harman stove adapter too, so no fooling around.

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[gerard jones]

I installed the exhaust pipe today.
Plugged the stove in, I hear the exhaust fan running, the off light is flashing,
I push on and still nothing, auger doesn't try to feed, igniter doesn't get hot.
Glad I didn't order a ton of pellets.

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[ARC]

Try closing the door and if you have a few more pellets add so there are a couple inches in hopper . Possibly stove not sensing vacuum.

Flashing Off Light: This indicates that the stove is in the shutdown state waiting for the OFF
button, or for a 15 minute period after the stove was turned off, or for the stove to cool down, or for
the door to be closed.

 

[gerard jones]

Try closing the door and if you have a few more pellets add so there are a couple inches in hopper . Possibly stove not sensing vacuum.

Flashing Off Light: This indicates that the stove is in the shutdown state waiting for the OFF
button, or for a 15 minute period after the stove was turned off, or for the stove to cool down, or for
the door to be closed.

Yeh I've been looking at the pdf, yep...the door was open,
with the door closed the auger is cycling now,
the exhaust fan is also cycling.
I'm not seeing any signs of ignitor activity,
the intial auger feed looked like saw dust but its starting to drop pellets.
I think that was the old pellets clearing out, its a used stove.
Can I light it with a mapp torch for now?

 

[ARC]

Can I light it with a mapp torch for now?

Yes or hand sanitizer and a barbeque lighter. Close hopper, ash pan in place, hand full of pellets in fire pot, squirt sanitizer on pellets light them shut door. Damper should be at aroung 1 1/2 inches out from stove body.

 

[gerard jones]

Yes or hand sanitizer and a barbeque lighter. Close hopper, ash pan in place, hand full of pellets in fire pot, squirt sanitizer on pellets light them shut door. Damper should be at aroung 1 1/2 inches out from stove body.

it lit with the torch , was going great until I moved the power cord off the exhaust pipe and the plug fell out.
I plugged it back in but everything went dark , like theres no power at the board.
Does this sound like a fuse ?
I'm looking in the pdf manual and it dopesn't list any fuses but I saw them when I had it open.
Looked on amazon but can't locate them, bummer it was going great, my luck.

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[gerard jones]

tested the fuses on the board for continuity , they test good.!
is there a main fuse i'm missing?