PB74, would you mind taking measurements of your ofen and posting them? Also, what is the approximate outside temp. of it when at its hottest?@churchie, the measurements are (in centimeter. sorry, but i'm in germany! the conversion to inches is 2,54 cm/inch): height: 175 length: 96 depth: 55 i don't know what the outside temp is but i do know that around the firebox is the hottest after it has fully warmed up. even so, i can put my hand on the tile, hold it there, and not burn myself. hope that helps!! @marty s, that tempcast is a beauty. the only thing that i wish i could change with my berliner is that it had a window to watch the fire. do you use the baking oven and if so, is there really a difference between bread from that and a regular bake oven?