I did send them an email... interestingly, a quick search reveals a UK Forestry Commission publication recommending 20% MC even as HETAS suggests 25%. That publication has "Biomass Energy Centre" on the heading, which I gather is associated with HETAS. You would think they would be on the same page, and specify the same MC number.to ask HETAS about the discrepancy between their recommended MC for firewood and what stove manufacturers recommend
If your goal is to pollute the planet less, wood is not the answer. Yes, a modern wood stove is going to pollute less than an old wood stove. But a modern oil furnace will polute far less than a modern wood stove. Also if you are burning wet wood the difference in polution is even greater....And Yes, heating cost is a factor, but it's less about money for me and more about preferring not to go back to burning oil or coal because I want to do my bit for the planet in as many ways as possible. It goes without saying how important that is.
Hmm, this is a great Pollyanna attitude, but the facts are far from it. This article is pretty well written, there are more too about the health affects of wood burning and its affects on people. https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/documents/91br023.pdfI don't know if I believe that. The particulates ejected will settle and fertilize the land. The ash left in your stove can be put to use fertilizing also. Most of mine goes on my compost heap. Some straight onto the garden.
Particulate emissions comes up in many different forms. The particulate matter that is generated from all the refinery equipment plus the delivery trucks far outweighs the lil bit of particulate coming from the wood stove when its operating correctly. If you are near any traffic and you probably don't realize how much diesel particulate matter there is in the air you breathe. Another thought is when there is oil truck spill. Think of the damage that does to the environment versus a load of wood falling off a truck.Hmm, this is a great Pollyanna attitude, but the facts are far from it. This article is pretty well written, there are more too about the health affects of wood burning and its affects on people. https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/documents/91br023.pdf
Hmm, this is a great Pollyanna attitude, but the facts are far from it. This article is pretty well written, there are more too about the health affects of wood burning and its affects on people. https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/documents/91br023.pdf
I have to agree with CT Burner. This was not a well-thought out venture. You have no chance of drying your own wood, and if you cannot buy it ready to burn, you need a plan B that does not involve burning wood.Two of those will last me around one month if I'm lighting up every morning and burning all day.. I have no space to store much more than that,
Ach... Begreen... I'm surprised by the whole sorry mess.I'm surprised that the local clean air folks have not challenged that 25% moisture standard.
Agreed.Yeah, the real story here is how outright corrupt the "kiln-dried wood" market is over there. Disgusting.
Your last paragraph IS encouraging, because the first thing that comes to mind is that if one or two suppliers focused on producing and marketing truly dry wood, they might tap into and exploit the huge market potential that exists. Once such a producer was up and running, it wouldn't seem too hard to get green-hungry media outlets to report and thus promote their efforts. If the gov't is going to fail in educating the public, it is going to be up to new/reformed (low MC) wood suppliers, stove merchants, and burners like you to take up the cause, and hopefully get it reported by local newspapers, TV stations and bloggers.A I feel increasingly frustrated - and also curious -about the ignorance about what constitutes decent wood over here, given the effort the government have been putting into actively encouraging people to move to heating with wood, it's a serious omission to not follow though by encouraging the provision of properly regulated fuel.
On a more positive note... I had a great conversation with the folk over the hill I mentioned a few posts back - and they seem really keen and interested to make their new kiln drying venture all that it could and should be and I plan to encourage them all I can.
This may be the saving grace. If everyone was burning wood you would have a huge, huge pollution issue. The main reason why wood pollution is not an issue is that most of the people do not use it. Modern furnaces burn pretty clean, wood stoves burn pretty clean, sometimes.Stoves are such a relatively new thing here, and for many folk they're more of a trendy, designer thing than a serious means of heating the home. Most folks will light up for a little while on slightly chillier evenings and weekends, really just to add atmosphere... I guess if you're burning for those reasons it doesn't matter much to you if the MC is dodgy.
That sounds like a real bummer with being so hard getting wood and all. My question is how do they monitor moisture percentage for each household? If you were to burn too wet of wood, what would the consequences be? Do you have the ability to cut your own wood instead of purchasing? Over here in the States we are under attack on environmental issues (Global Warming and such) and wood burning being banned like us here in Oregon. A few local towns have just passed laws only allowing burn days only certain days of the week. (get this, "Unless" you are considered poverty income bracket). Not quit sure how they plan to enforce these new regulations, but if Hetas hasn't started to give any sign of banning wood burning in your part of the world, I think you may be better off than usThis will be my third winter since I got my first wood stove. I still love my stove and really want to love burning wood.
I am unable to CSS enough wood for myself, partly due to lack of space and partly because it's pretty tough to do anyway in a country that rains horizontally as much as Scotland! So I need to buy most of my wood. Kiln dried is very popular over here... probably partly because it's possible to get wood dry that way. It's expensive, (you guys would freak at the price!) but still way cheaper than heating oil. But what I have discovered, much to my disappointment, is that I have been unable to find a supplier of kiln dried logs whose product is a decently low MC.
I have tried well over 10 different suppliers in the last two years and the very best of them sell logs that average between 25 -27% on a freshly split face... Often much higher - I've measured some 'kiln dried' splits up to 45% at their core!
Our government body that monitors the quality of fire wood and pellets - HETAS - allow suppliers to indicate on their websites If their product has attained their standard and is accredited by them. So I decided to study their info on their website and also call them and ask exactly how they monitor firewood... and here!s what I discovered when I spoke to them - what they consider to be acceptable firewood is wood that has an 'average MC of 25%'.
By 'average' they mean, for instance, if the outside of a split is, say, 18%, it's quite fine for the inside of the same split to be 32%, because the 'average' MC would indeed be 25%. So I guess I have discovered why all the wood Suppliers I've complained to say I'm too fussy - because HETAS would back them up.
The only wood I have been able to buy that is 20% or less right through is kiln dried birch exported from the Baltic States. It was a joy to burn, and I was grateful to have the chance to see what my stove can do when it's given a decent chance, but I have never bought it again because a great part of my reason for burning wood is about reducing my carbon footprint.
So I am probably going to be saying goodbye to logs and moving over to Eco bricks, as they check all the boxes, including the environmental ones, as some great ones are made pretty locally.
I'm sad though, becuase there's just something about actual logs that Eco bricks don't do for me. But heck, they're waaaay cheaper than logs over here and they burn great.
So in sharing all of this here partly because I'd need some sympathy - but mostly because I'd welcome some feedback about HETAS's official view of good fire wood!
I will probably never stop looking for decent firewood though... But it's starting to feel like searching for the Holy Grail or the Lost Chord...
Sorry this post is so long.. Just getting it off my chest.