You installer doesnt know what he is doing the connector on the bottom is on wrong the liner should slide into it not over it. the liner is not attached to that connector at the bottom. He kinked the liner as it comes through the damper and yes it needs insulation and some sort of block off plate for sure. I am also curious why there is so much dirt ontop of the insert already did he even clean the chimney first?also took pictures of inside the fireplace and can now see how the liner goes up the fireplace.
I guess I definitely need to insulate the liner and install a block off plate.
Is that first picture the cat temp probe?
You installer doesnt know what he is doing the connector on the bottom is on wrong the liner should slide into it not over it. the liner is not attached to that connector at the bottom. He kinked the liner as it comes through the damper and yes it needs insulation and some sort of block off plate for sure. I am also curious why there is so much dirt ontop of the insert already did he even clean the chimney first?
wow! That's why I wanted to see a pic of the top. Most often, a quick look at the components and the way they are assembled will tell you a lot about the installer.You installer doesnt know what he is doing the connector on the bottom is on wrong the liner should slide into it not over it. the liner is not attached to that connector at the bottom. He kinked the liner as it comes through the damper and yes it needs insulation and some sort of block off plate for sure. I am also curious why there is so much dirt ontop of the insert already did he even clean the chimney first?
I was wanting to see how it was finished out at the top.
wow! That's why I wanted to see a pic of the top. Most often, a quick look at the components and the way they are assembled will tell you a lot about the installer.
I understand, sorry you are dealing with the fall out..The installer will never do work at our house again due to numerous issues with this whole thing but now there is nothing I can do about it but fix the issues.
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I understand, sorry you are dealing with the fall out..
If you can swing it, I think it's necessary to have someone reputable out to pull the liner, insulate it, reinstall the fittings properly, and install a block off plate. I would expect to spent around $500 for the work.
I follow all BK threads because I want to purchase a king for my new house that I will build in four yrs. time.
What is that in the first picture shown? Looks like a thermocouple going into a sardine can....
You installer doesnt know what he is doing the connector on the bottom is on wrong the liner should slide into it not over it. the liner is not attached to that connector at the bottom. He kinked the liner as it comes through the damper and yes it needs insulation and some sort of block off plate for sure. I am also curious why there is so much dirt ontop of the insert already did he even clean the chimney first?
Yeah, that band clamp is supposed to be tightened onto the liner, then there are screw holes in the flue collar of the stove, probably covered by the band clamp now, correct? There's a better pic on page 2.wow! That's why I wanted to see a pic of the top. Most often, a quick look at the components and the way they are assembled will tell you a lot about the installer.
I think you could, too. You just have to know how to read and follow instructions. If that installer was born in the last thirty years, chances are good that his reading comprehension skills are lacking. Of course, there's always something that comes up, that's why an experienced installer is worth the money. But I think you will be hard-pressed to find an installer that is as good as bholler and webby. I would try to get the certified guy...20 miles ain't that far...Hell at this point I think I could install it better myself.
We travel 40 miles regularly, 20 is just down the road!Yeah, that band clamp is supposed to be tightened onto the liner, then there are screw holes in the flue collar of the stove, probably covered by the band clamp now, correct? There's a better pic on page 2.
I think you could, too. You just have to know how to read and follow instructions. Of course, there's always something that comes up, that's why an experienced installer is worth the money. But I think you will be hard-pressed to find an installer that is as good as bholler and webby. I would try to get the certified guy...20 miles ain't that far...
BTW, if you are getting hungry, I think those bugs you put on the stove are about done...
Yeah, that band clamp is supposed to be tightened onto the liner, then there are screw holes in the flue collar of the stove, probably covered by the band clamp now, correct? There's a better pic on page 2.
I think you could, too. You just have to know how to read and follow instructions. If that installer was born in the last thirty years, chances are good that his reading comprehension skills are lacking. Of course, there's always something that comes up, that's why an experienced installer is worth the money. But I think you will be hard-pressed to find an installer that is as good as bholler and webby. I would try to get the certified guy...20 miles ain't that far...
BTW, if you are getting hungry, I think those bugs you put on the stove are about done...
Check and see if that appliance connector is the same brand as the liner. That way, you know it will fit properly and work right. If you are going to dive in and attempt repairs yourself, read the installation instructions of both the stove maker and the liner maker. You may as well pull the liner and insulate it while you are at it, and make a block-off plate. It looks like it will be a long fall...you should have it done before it gets too cold out.I am going to work on fixing these issue as soon as I get some help to get the stove out.
Considering you were installing an insert, I'm interested in what work to the fireplace was done?I am going to work on fixing these issue as soon as I get some help to get the stove out.
I have no other words for this contractor. He was a pain in the ass the whole time. Took him 5 months to rebuild the fireplace and change the design to stone and insert the liner. Kept asking for more money because he was running out. Well no wonder when it took you 5 months to do the damn work. He would come and work for an hour and then say he would be back tomorrow. It was a nightmare. Lesson learned.
Yea. The bugs are pretty crispy now. There are a bunch of cooked ones back there. I will vacuum them out when we get to working on the stove again.
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Considering you were installing an insert, I'm interested in what work to the fireplace was done?
Check and see if that appliance connector is the same brand as the liner. That way, you know it will fit properly and work right. If you are going to dive in and attempt repairs yourself, read the installation instructions of both the stove maker and the liner maker. You may as well pull the liner and insulate it while you are at it, and make a block-off plate. It looks like it will be a long fall...you should have it done before it gets too cold out.
I do not work for the company that made your stove. I think you should ask them. If you have a 700 or higher reading and then turn the fans on and it drops in temp reading, turn the fans back off and if the reading increases, it's the air hitting the probe.View attachment 187709View attachment 187710
Here is a picture when I took the faceplate off. The second one was where the hot air flows from the fan and you can see the probe in there.
I thought about if I could insulate that and see if it made a difference but didn't think of a can. Thank you. Can I leave it there if it works so I have accurate readings or will it cause harm?
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Nice hope you get that sorted out, it's cold over here 30° outside I've had the,high valley running non stop since yesterday with good results, time you enjoy yoursI haven't been able to mess with the temperature probe yet. But my moisture meter came and I tested all the wood I put in today and it was 4-15%.
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