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BSS

Member
Nov 3, 2019
7
Rhode Island
Fire seems to burn out quickly even when fully damped down. Cold in morning , no coals. F500 model. Is there a method for determining which gaskets to replace or corners to seal?
 

Ctwoodtick

Minister of Fire
Jun 5, 2015
2,062
Southeast CT
Use “the dollar bill test”.
You take a dollar bill and close in the door of a cold stove. If it slides out easily- that area of the gasket if letting some air in and making the burn quicker. Test several part of the door. If not the door, maybe the ash door gasket is letting air in somewhere and needs replacement. If not that, perhaps the glass gasket.
 

bigealta

Minister of Fire
May 22, 2010
1,182
Utah & NJ
Which f500? the new v3 model or and older one?
 

bigealta

Minister of Fire
May 22, 2010
1,182
Utah & NJ
Old model
Ok that's good. Just a matter of tracking down where you might have any air leaks. Dollar bill test and smoke also works around any doors, lid, ash pan area, sides where they meet with the other side plates, flue collar and flue pipe etc. Look for the smoke from your smoke stick getting sucked in through any gaps.
 

woodheatguide

New Member
Nov 21, 2023
7
MI
v3 does the same thing for me since day 1. I heard about plugging the holes in the bottom with some magnets. I am going to try that this season.
 
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BSS

Member
Nov 3, 2019
7
Rhode Island
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Fully damped here. Door gaskets all appear tight. Smoke test... Are you suggesting I light a stick or something outside of the stove and hold it near the stoves seams? Elementary level here...
Thanks
 

Todd

Minister of Fire
Nov 19, 2005
10,179
NW Wisconsin
Is this a new to you stove or something that just started happening? Maybe you’re not shutting her down soon enough? Are you monitoring temps?
 

BSS

Member
Nov 3, 2019
7
Rhode Island
Is this a new to you stove or something that just started happening? Maybe you’re not shutting her down soon enough? Are you monitoring temps?
Usually start wide open, move to half after about 30 mins, then as the stove is fully hot go full damper. Second load of wood is full damper almost immediately. It's always acted like this but I'm motivated to do something about it this year.
 

bigealta

Minister of Fire
May 22, 2010
1,182
Utah & NJ
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Fully damped here. Door gaskets all appear tight. Smoke test... Are you suggesting I light a stick or something outside of the stove and hold it near the stoves seams? Elementary level here...
Thanks
Yes - Really you can use anything that makes smoke. Piece of paper or cardboard lit then blown out, cigar, cigarette, matches, maybe even steam from super hot coffee? Hold the smoke just below anywhere 2 surfaces meet. The Pic Looks to be pulling in extra air. Also definitely find and cover the 2 air holes on the ash pan housing if your stove has them.

The number 1 suspect would be door seals.
Number 2 would be factory drilled air holes in ash pan housing.
Number 3 anywhere side panels meet each other, or the top, or base pieces.
 
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woodheatguide

New Member
Nov 21, 2023
7
MI
I noticed that over time, my the top front corners around the gasket were not perfect and let air in but only noticed when I had other issues that let smoke out.
 

BSS

Member
Nov 3, 2019
7
Rhode Island
Getting back to this...smoke seems to get sucked behind the stove and up. All seams and gaskets produce nothing. Hard to tell w/o burning my arm. Meant I check for ash tray holes. Seems like I bought this from some ash holes. Is there an inlet I can partially cover somewhere?