New jotul f55 v2 questions

[Flashback87]

Could it be part of the bottom heat shield

I think the heat shield is separate. On page 22 of the manual, it shows installing the heat shield for short leg installation. The shield would be covering that rectangle per the image in the manual

 

[Todd]

You would think blocking all those holes would pretty much snuff out the fire and it looks to still be raging.

 

[Flashback87]

Two hour mark and I have both magnets removed. Hottest spot on stove top is 550°. Definitely has slowed down and wrapping up. Don't think I'll get 3 hrs of flames this time

 

[Todd]

I think the heat shield is separate. On page 22 of the manual, it shows installing the heat shield for short leg installation. The shield would be covering that rectangle per the image in the manual

Ok yeah that looks like the secondary air inlet. I wonder if blocking some of that would tame the beast? If there was a way to cover all those air inlets it could tell you if there are any leaks elsewhere .

 

[begreen]

That is too lively considering how much is blocked off. I am wondering what the large, rectangular hole above the air control, that you have the magnet half covering, supplies air to. It would be really helpful if an owner of an F55 or F45 could post a picture of the same area.

It could be the secondary port but seems like a long way to get there. The manual shows it at the back of the firebox, but now I see the small grey arrow at the bottom front, so it does look like that could be the secondary intake.

 

[EbS-P]

Has anyone determined what/where the physical stop is that keeps the air from being closed all the way?

 

[Flashback87]

Probably doesn't matter but figured id keep the burn process going. Still have flames at 3 hours but pretty small and limited. Hottest stt is 460° and blower is still on medium.

When I cools down I'll poke around the primary air control a little to see what is going on.

 

[Todd]

I believe the two squares that he blocked are the primary air wash that travels up both front sides then down the wash. This air is regulated by the primary air lever and can be accessed from inside the firebox below the door. The small circle hole is the primary boost air I believe but not sure. That silver plate with the large open rectangle must be the secondary air manifold that somehow moves the air towards the back and up into the secondary air baffle.

My F45 was similar that it had the two rectangles primary air and had two boost air holes instead of one. The secondary air was located in the back bottom of the stove.

 

[EbS-P]

Now is the time to look where the coals are the brightest. Is there any air hole near the front inside the firebox you can block with a short nail or screw?

 

[Flashback87]

Now is the time to look where the coals are the brightest. Is there any air hole near the front inside the firebox you can block with a short nail or screw?

Yes, there is a primary air port at the front toward the door. The manual says to clear ash if it accumulates toward this port. I have not been clearing the ash recently hoping to control the burn.

I would call it more of a vent vs port. I have not really examined it but it seems larger. You can kind of see it in the image begreen shared.

 

[Flashback87]

Just throwing this out there...

while looking at the primary air control, it looks like the port that feeds the air wash (im assuming) is not seated.

I know it's hard to see in this Pic but it is not flush with the base of the ash lip. I can push it down too. The other port the lever connects too is flush but its the same valve so its like the valve js bend up on the farther end

I would think air can be getting in here.

Could this be causing my issue?

 

[EbS-P]

Yes, there is a primary air port at the front toward the door. The manual says to clear ash if it accumulates toward this port. I have not been clearing the ash recently hoping to control the burn.

I would call it more of a vent vs port. I have not really examined it but it seems larger.

I’d be partially or completely plugging it with something metal.

 

[bigealta]

After reading the manual, Blocking all those holes with the 3 magnets blocks both the boost air that enters the firebox below the door and also the airwash air.

Knowing that, i'd focus on the "vent" or boost air holes under the door. If they are holes you can put a screw or bolt loosely in them to block that boost air while retaining airwash air. (if the magnets are removed)

If it is a "vent" or slot you could try a piece of tin foil i guess to mostly block it and see what happens.

In the f400 that cover piece is called the doghouse and removing 2 screws allows you access to inside it to show the vent holes/slot and the air control slider/shudder

 

[bigealta]

Just throwing this out there...

while looking at the primary air control, it looks like the port that feeds the air wash (im assuming) is not seated.

I know it's hard to see in this Pic but it is not flush with the base of the ash lip. I can push it down too. The other port the lever connects too is flush but its the same valve so its like the valve js bend up on the farther end

I would think air can be getting in here.

Could this be causing my issue?

Yes Maybe, Definitely worth looking at. If you have bolts/screws holding the doghouse enclosure top down, unscrew them and you should see everything from the top side.

Stove needs to be cool though to do that.

This is how u do it in the f400. not sure how similar the f55 is ? but it gives you the idea of what we are talking about.

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Todd]

Just throwing this out there...

while looking at the primary air control, it looks like the port that feeds the air wash (im assuming) is not seated.

I know it's hard to see in this Pic but it is not flush with the base of the ash lip. I can push it down too. The other port the lever connects too is flush but its the same valve so its like the valve js bend up on the farther end

I would think air can be getting in here.

Could this be causing my issue?

Yes this could be a problem. It may be out of its track causing it not to fit flush and close properly. Take a screwdriver and push it up and see if you can move it around and maybe slide it back in. If I remember correctly with my F45 one of those squares closed completely while the other was slightly open when I had the air control fully closed.

 

[Flashback87]

Yes Maybe, Definitely worth looking at. If you have bolts/screws holding the doghouse enclosure top down, unscrew them and you should see everything from the top side.

Stove needs to be cool though to do that.

This is how u do it in the f400. not sure how similar the f55 is ? but it give you the idea of what we are talking about.

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

Thanks for the video!

There are 2 screws holding it down to the doghouse but if the valve is bent I probably just need a new one.

Would this be a manufacturers issue?

The more I think about it, it just seems like that should be flush with base. Air has to be getting sucked in there!

 

[bigealta]

I'd think you can bend it but maybe it is a cast piece which means no bending. But if it was a bent cast piece at the factory i'd think they would have seen that?
Definitely open up the doghouse, it will tell you if it's a problem or not. I bet it is a problem.

 

[Flashback87]

I'd think you can bend it but maybe it is a cast piece which means no bending. But if it was a bent cast piece at the factory i'd think they would have seen that?
Definitely open up the doghouse, it will tell you if it's a problem or not. I bet it is a problem.

Ok, im gonna take out some coals to try and get it cooled down.

Does it need to be completely cooled/room temp ?

Thanks!

 

[bigealta]

Temp? Whatever u are comfortable with. Good if it's at least warm to help suck the dust up the chimney vs into your living room.

 

[Flashback87]

Temp? Whatever u are comfortable with. Good if it's at least warm to help suck the dust up the chimney vs into your living room.

Thanks! I took some coals out and I'll see how cool it is later tonight to dive into.

Had to turn my heat on... lol.

Not super stoked I have to start removing pieces on a brand new stove a week after getting it. Gonna make sure i take pics and see what my installer and place of purchase think.

 

[bigealta]

Yeah and the absolute worst day of the year.
If it was mine i'd be impatient and get my leather gloves out at least to pop the top off and get a good look. As Todd suggested it's possible it's just off a track or misaligned.

 

[Flashback87]

Yep... its bent! How could this happen? Seems a little ridiculous.

I have it on top of my level and you can see the left side sloping up

What should my next steps be?

 

[EbS-P]

Here is full load for me. This gets a B- for packing. Top down starting one side to delay the ignition of the right side.

 

[bigealta]

Wrong thread EBS. But now that you are hear what say you?

 

[bigealta]

Yep... its bent! How could this happen? Seems a little ridiculous.

I have it on top of my level and you can see the left side sloping up

What should my next steps be?

Ok can you take a few more pics of the piece? Can u tell if is cast or just mild steel?