New Install, Quotes vs DIY, a Jotul 602N, and other questions...

[elnene2k]

Hello All,
I've been lurking and reading a lot here and finally asking some questions on my specific plans...

I bought a used Jotul 602N in pretty good shape. It is from 1994 but EPA certified with the modern clean burn technology based on the interior secondary burn panels that I see inside my stove

I love this little stove although I have not used it yet...Very unique off white color in an enamel finish...

I was looking at the Waterford Leprachaun stove for a little while since I like the looks better but was hesitant due to the difficulty of finding replacement parts so I'm happy I got the Jotul since I can find many sources for parts

So here is what I'm doing...Our house is approximately 700 sq ft. We have 2 levels with 2 bedrooms upstairs. I am installing the stove on a corner of the living room and definitely want to through the ceiling for performance, costs, and most importantly for me, aesthetics...

I have gotten 2 quotes so far...The first company I will not go with at all as I was not a fan of the info they gave me...Guy told me though ceiling install was not an option and the only way to do it was through outside and quoted me $3000 for the install

Second guy I liked much better and said the way to go is straight up which is what I thought...Quoted me $2650 for that kind of install.

Both said I will need 15' of pipe. I am using double wall from stove for better clearance and will purchase the optional rear heat shield for my 602N so that I will have 9" clearance to combustible wall corners. That will allow me to not have to create a surround on the corner...I will put in a custom corner hearth based on the clearances the manual stated...

The install to me seems pretty basic...So basic that I am considering doing the install myself...I am getting quotes for the parts online and it would me a little over $1000 on parts if I did this myself...My only concern is installing the roof part...I have a steep roof...

My town permit is just asking to look at the install after it's done...so it does not matter who does it as long as it meets specs...

What are your thoughts on this info I am providing...I guess I am asking to talk me into or out of doing it myself or going with a pro...I am including shots of the project spot for it, the stove, and the exterior of where the piping would come out from. The pipe would come out of the front corner of the roof pictured

Thanks up front!

 

[Jags]

It sounds like you have your ducks in a row. Many folks have done exactly what you speak of. My only suggestion at this point is to check with your Ins. Co. Some (as in mine) required the install to be done by a pro. Others don't much care who does the install. You don't want to get blind sided with that.

 

[elnene2k]

It sounds like you have your ducks in a row. Many folks have done exactly what you speak of. My only suggestion at this point is to check with your Ins. Co. Some (as in mine) required the install to be done by a pro. Others don't much care who does the install. You don't want to get blind sided with that.

Thanks Jags...I just called insurance today and if I go with a pro or not my insurance will go up by $14...Nothing else...So I am now mainly leaning towards the install myself...We're in the middle of a huge snow storm for my neck of the woods and boy do I wish we had this thing installed by now!

I am leaning towards the Duravent system...I've read good things on them on here...Any thoughts on the telescoping pipe lengths they sell these days? I am leaning towards getting me a doublewall telescoping lead to my ceiling...Any cons on these?

Also, the ceiling in my second floor that goes through the attic is angled and low clearance from roof...So I am wondering what I can use as an angled attic shield that is low clearance?

 

[Jags]

Duravent has a good following. They have all the components that you will need, including the ceiling boxes. Remember: 3 screws per joint. I am NOT an install expert, so take my suggestions as opinion.

 

[elnene2k]

So I am still in the planning stages of the install and based on my stud finder, I have a 16" OC joist which will impeded my corner install...So I figure I can conform to this obstacle but I need about a 3" offset...

Problem is, the 2 major stove pipe makers don't offer 15 or 30 degree joints any longer, at least not in the double wall black stove pipe...Which is more what I need...45 degree without pipe would offer a 5" clearance which would move my stove a bit but I want to avoid moving the stove because of tight clearances of the projected place in my small home

So, I found ICC still makes the 15 & 30 degree bends...but, what I'm wondering is if I were to use the ICC black double wall pipe from stove to ceiling connection and then go with Selkirk from ceiling up...Is this possible?

I wanted to stick with one brand but it's not looking like it's possible

I assume Selkirk just recently stopped making the 15 & 30 degree bends considering some of their manuals still mentions them? Any thoughts on this?

 

[WiscWoody]

I'd contact Selkirk and see if they might have some yet and call dealers near and far if need be. They can ship the parts. I bought all of my double wall stove pipe and Selkirk stainless at a home center. Do you have a Home Depot close by?

I put my own stove in. It wasn't too bad of a job and the whole install came to $1300 with 22' of chimney, both double wall stove pipe and the class A pricey stuff which just that alone is about 13' up and out a insulated chase. Each 3' section of 6" Selkirk is $55 around here, the cap is $35 just for examples.

 

[skinanbones]

there's no reason why you can't use ICC double wall and Selkirk for the chimney. I perfer the ICC double wall to most other manufacters, they go together nice and tight.