Richmond® 50 Gallon Electric Water Heater with Hybrid Heat Pump any good?

brenndatomu

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Aug 21, 2013
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I didn't look at it real close because I am not interested in it, but I think there is something on this Richmond that has to be bought to make the whole cellphone communication/control thing work...back when I was reading reviews on this unit I remember people whining about having to buy an extra optional part that they felt they were mislead into believeing that it came with everything needed for the wifi to work...I dunno...having the touchscreen readout is good enough for me...
 

mellow

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Jan 19, 2008
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Salisbury, MD
That touchscreen readout is nice, wish my AO smith had that. It took me about 5 hours and 3 trips to lowes for parts to swap out my WH to the hybrid. Its in a tight spot and had to redo all the plumbing and add the condensate lines which was a pia as it barely fit in the spot I had to put it in.
 

brenndatomu

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Aug 21, 2013
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I'm just looking forward to seeing how much of a dent this thing puts in our electric bill.
My guess is $15 per month less in the winter, and $5-10 per month more than that in the summer (due to decreased dehumidifier usage)
I have it set to run in "heat pump only" mode for now, just to see how well that works out for us...might try "hybrid" mode out at some point too...
 
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brenndatomu

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So I finally got around to measuring the power consumption on this beast tonight. Running in heat pump mode it was only using 312 watts!
I never thought I would be eager to see the next electric bill... ;lol
 
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Brian26

Feeling the Heat
Sep 20, 2013
478
Branford, CT
So I finally got around to measuring the power consumption on this beast tonight. Running in heat pump mode it was only using 312 watts!
I never thought I would be eager to see the next electric bill... ;lol
Your measurement is off. I think you need to double it. They all draw around 500-650 watts.
 

brenndatomu

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Aug 21, 2013
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Your measurement is off. I think you need to double it. They all draw around 500-650 watts.
1.3A x 240 (ish) volts...
 
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Seasoned Oak

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Oct 17, 2008
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Eastern Central PA
I'm just looking forward to seeing how much of a dent this thing puts in our electric bill.
Our old WH used to cost about $35 a month to run (family of 4) . The HPWH closer to $10 $300 savings per year So after the first yr savings and the rebate its all money in the bank. I think im in my 4th yr with it.
 
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brenndatomu

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The last bill was still a combination of the old and new heater...the next bill should be here any day...I will update when I get it.
I have a rough idea just from looking at the KWH on the meter, that it is going to come in around $20 month...but it is going to take a full year to get the whole picture since it may eliminate the need to run an additional dehumidifier...
 
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Brian26

Feeling the Heat
Sep 20, 2013
478
Branford, CT
I have mine on an Efergy and it draws around 300 watts when running.
I still think that's off. Each line of the 240v circuit should be pulling 300 watts so its using 600 watts. I have the Efergy system as well with 5 sensors. Do you have CTs on both legs and it set to 240?

Almost all these hpwh use around 500-600 watts but the Richmond doesnt list the compresor wattage specs. Is looks like a rebadged Rheem? The Rheem compresor is listed at 4200 btu drawing around 500 watts.
 

Seasoned Oak

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Oct 17, 2008
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Eastern Central PA
Almost all these hpwh use around 500-600 watts but the Richmond doesnt list the compresor wattage specs.
Correct my GE uses about 550 Watts in heat pump mode.
 

Kiotick4010

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I have two , in different houses. One three years old and the other two.

No problems, and even if they are in heated areas of the basement or house, getting rid of the dehumidifier is a major cost savings..

Our utility and stathad a great rebate program when I bought. One ended up costing me $50 after the rebates and the other was actually free.

I would buy another even at full price.
 

brenndatomu

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Aug 21, 2013
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NE Ohio
@brenndatomu how much did your electric bill drop by ?
My bill came today, looks like I'm down 121 KWH from the same period last year...not that the two can be directly compared, but best I can do until I have a full 12 months to compare.
The billing cycle was 32 days, so that's 3.78 KWH per day...and I'm betting that not running the dehumifier as much this summer with make even more difference than this too...plus I'm hatching a plan that may even limit using the AC as much...we really don't run the AC that many days per year anyways.
Oh, and our total price is $0.117 (taxes and fees in) per KWH, so 121 KWH saved means $14.16 less per month...which means this machine will take a while to pay for itself...but 1 month worth of data is hardly conclusive, and as I said, I think the big money savings will come this summer.
After I have it long enough to establish a track record, I will try it in hybrid mode...it is in heat pump mode only now, which I assume will be the most cost effective way to run it...hybrid mode has been working fine though, save one night when my wife had a less than hot shower (and she likes it steamy hot!) after both the kids bathed (using too much water in the tub IMO!)
All in all so far, I am not disappointed with it.
 
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Seasoned Oak

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After I have it long enough to establish a track record, I will try it in hybrid mode...it is in heat pump mode only now, which I assume will be the most cost effective way to run it...hybrid mode has been working fine though, save one night when my wife had a less than hot shower (and she likes it steamy hot!) after both the kids bathed (using too much water in the tub IMO!)
I have mine turned all the way up to 140. If you have a tempering valve in your system you wont even notice. It increases the available hot water as it adds more cold to the usage to bring the water at tap back down a bit. I normally keep it in Heat pump mode but still need hybrid mode when company is here or sometimes on laundry day. Mine saves about $9 per person ,per month for a houshold of 4 .
 
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