Woodstock stove porn

[begreen]

I don't like the name Progress Hybrid as it sounds like some technical automobile or similar.

It sounds like it should be the trademark name for the burn technology rather than for the actual stove. Kind of like the VC Defiant's "Everburn" or the Harman Oakwood's "Firedome." Even in that context, it sounds kind of lame compared to those.

I'm reminded of the old Progress spacecraft launched by the Soviets. Maybe they have figured out how to wood heat one or run it on woodgas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_(spacecraft)

 

[raybonz]

I don't like the name Progress Hybrid as it sounds like some technical automobile or similar.

It sounds like it should be the trademark name for the burn technology rather than for the actual stove. Kind of like the VC Defiant's "Everburn" or the Harman Oakwood's "Firedome." Even in that context, it sounds kind of lame compared to those.

I'm reminded of the old Progress spacecraft launched by the Soviets. Maybe they have figured out how to wood heat one or run it on woodgas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_(spacecraft)

LOL BG I just got a visual on that woodburning spacecraft! This would give secondary burn along with afterburners!!

Ray

 

[leeave96]

It can't have a flip up lid just like the fireview, this new stove (can't bring myself to call it Progress) will have a changable top flue configuration which like the other WS stoves would make a full flip top impossible.

The new steel firebox will make this new stove "less prone to leakage". This tells me that leakage is currently a problem. I like a tight ship so the steel is fine with me, it's about time we tightened up combustion.

Too bad about not being able to see the cat. It will make it very difficult to know if you have proper cat operation without a thermometer.

Like BB, I am no longer interested in the new stove. This new information paints a picture that is anything but progress. I will keep an open mind though when other folks begin to report actual experiences since there surely must be some redeeming values that make this stove better than it appears now. About the only thing that can turn this ship around will be very long burn times. Max output and lowest emissions..... who cares? If that was all that mattered then we would have englander 30s.

Based on the past tone of your posts relative to Woodstock stoves in general, I don't think you've ever been interested in a Woodstock soapstone woodstove regardless of their merit.

I think the new stove is a good concept. Benefit from the cat and secondaries for high output clean burn and choke the stove down for a clean burn via cat if the secondaries go out. Ought to give a really long burn on low settings given capacity of the firebox and the advantage of cat combustion.

I have never heard of a "leakage" problem with any Woodstock stoapstone stoves. Flip-up top for cat access will be great - just like the Fireview. If you have ever ran a cat stove (which from reading some of your posts it doesn't sound like you have), you don't need to see the cat to know it's working - a simple stove top thermometer will suffice. In addition to what will be a great easy on the eyes look, the stove offers a large ash pan option which I have come to love on my Keystone. As far as the Englander 30, I've got one and will install and burn it this fall on the other end of the house from the Keystone. It will be a great stove I am sure, but this new Woodstock strikes me as a more versitle stove with the cat + secondary burn, ash pan, long clean very low burn for shoulder season chores and after some folks give it a workout and all is well, I may swap out the Englander for this stove in a few years - we'll see.

Bill

 

[ddddddden]

Yeah, too many dang parts. If I had one of these stoves, the first thing I would do is take out that fin heat exchanger. Who does this mfr think they are. . .trying to keep heat out of my flue? I like my flue hot. . .makes it whistle! Yep, take it out and burn it. That's what I'd do.

 

[ddddddden]

Seriously, hanging parts on a steel box is a very good mfg technique, like a unibody car. I don't see a problem with a few extra baffle parts if they make the stove put more heat into the house. The only moving part is the bypass door, which all cat and some fancy non-cat stoves have (Lopi uprade.) Heck, I'll bet the parts count is about the same as a typical non-cat if you count each burn tube. The only valid point I see in any of the criticism is re the hidden cat. For those who are anal with their cats, I think this might be best addressed with probes. . .thats how aliens get it done.

 

[DanCorcoran]

"For those who are anal with their cats, I think this might be best addressed with probes. . .thats how aliens get it done."

And you know this how?

 

[jimbom]

. . .thats how aliens get it done.

Do you have to put the stove in a trance first? It is generally the other way round for me. The stove puts me in a trance. Hope I don't wake up some evening with a probe in my...

 

[raybonz]

. . .thats how aliens get it done.

Do you have to put the stove in a trance first? It is generally the other way round for me. The stove puts me in a trance. Hope I don't wake up some evening with a probe in my...

LMAO Good one and Oh so true!!

:lol:

Ray

 

[Backwoods Savage]

I find all this chatter amusing. Carry on guys.

Oh, for the record, I do not like the name either, but what really counts is the stove and not the name. The end result is; does it keep give you the required amount of heat you desire? People usually don't buy stoves because of some internal design; they buy stoves to heat their homes.

 

[begreen]

For sure the name of the stove would not stop me from getting one. Good heat, durability, ease of operation, low maintenance are far more important priorities. The question is whether the complex design consistently outperforms a simpler one. If so, they may have a winner. That will take a few seasons to determine.

 

[Highbeam]

Based on the past tone of your posts relative to Woodstock stoves in general, I don't think you've ever been interested in a Woodstock soapstone woodstove regardless of their merit.

Your assumptions are wrong but that's what you get when you assume. This is not about my personal desire to buy a WS but rather the merits of this new stove and the potential improvements. I'm still more into the fireview based on what I see.

It will be nice to see the finished stove, the control details, the outside air hookup. I will of course be comparing these details to the way I would most like to have seen it done. If you don't like that Bill then you can take a flying leap.

 

[raybonz]

Based on the past tone of your posts relative to Woodstock stoves in general, I don't think you've ever been interested in a Woodstock soapstone woodstove regardless of their merit.

Your assumptions are wrong but that's what you get when you assume. This is not about my personal desire to buy a WS but rather the merits of this new stove and the potential improvements. I'm still more into the fireview based on what I see.

It will be nice to see the finished stove, the control details, the outside air hookup. I will of course be comparing these details to the way I would most like to have seen it done. If you don't like that Bill then you can take a flying leap.

LOL Highbeam! Don't beat around the bush..

Ray

 

[ddddddden]

"For those who are anal with their cats, I think this might be best addressed with probes. . .thats how aliens get it done."

And you know this how?

C'mon, Dan. Are you really going to pretend that you haven't seen the aliens in the G.W. Nat'l Forest?
Everybody knows that there are two types of people: those who acknowledge the presence of the aliens, and those who are working with them! :ahhh: :coolhmm:

 

[raybonz]

"For those who are anal with their cats, I think this might be best addressed with probes. . .thats how aliens get it done."

And you know this how?

C'mon, Dan. Are you really going to pretend that you haven't seen the aliens in the G.W. Nat'l Forest?
Everybody knows that there are two types of people: those who acknowledge the presence of the aliens, and those who are working with them! :ahhh: :coolhmm:

Obviously Dan has been probed ....

Ray

 

[ddddddden]

AA pr0bes aside, a thermal probe in the flue would tell you more about the status of the cat than its appearance would. A cat does not always glow while it burns.
An invisible cat shouldn't be a deal breaker for anyone interested in this stove.

 

[Todd]

By the looks of that fire box baffle I really don't think the cat is going to be doing much. Looks like a non cat stove with a cat to help clean up incase of a smouldering burn.

 

[ddddddden]

Maybe, but if it were burning like a typical non-cat, it wouldn't go "12 hours (easily.)"
BTW, there's an update on their blog about the ash pan.


As for the name, well, Andúril is clearly the best name for the stove, but I reckon the Tolkien estate may want too much $ these days for licensing.
Progress is not such a bad name, if the stove sets some records for efficiency and/or emissions. . .

 

[BrotherBart]

Prockress Hybrid. ;-)

That thing is one great looking stove.

But the Woodstock Evolution would serve it much better in the naming department. And no, I didn't enter the contest. Better Homes and Gardens already has photo rights to our place.

 

[BrowningBAR]

The Woodstock Big Balls Of Fiery Hell.

It doesn't come with a blower, but a Flamethrower with a built in MP3 of Flight of the Valkyries is offered as an add-on.

 

[BrotherBart]

...with a built in MP3 of Flight of the Valkyries is offered as an add-on.

The Woodstock Napalm. :lol:

 

[BrowningBAR]

...with a built in MP3 of Flight of the Valkyries is offered as an add-on.

The Woodstock Napalm. :lol:

If I say it's safe to burn wood in this stove, Captain, then it's safe to burn wood in this stove! I mean, I'm not afraid to burn wood, I'll burn wood in this whole f***ing place!

Charlie don't burn wood!

 

[BrowningBAR]

...with a built in MP3 of Flight of the Valkyries is offered as an add-on.

The Woodstock Napalm. :lol:

I love the smell of the Woodstock Napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had that stove burning, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find creosote, not one stinkin' ounce of creosote. The smell, you know that smell of warmth, the whole living room. Smelled like [sniffing, pondering] warmth. Someday this winter's gonna end...

 

[BrotherBart]

Browning, out there right now are a couple of thousand hearth.com members saying "What the hell are they talking about?".

 

[leeave96]

If you don't like that Bill then you can take a flying leap.

Ooooohhhh - you got me with that one - LOL

Bill

 

[fossil]

Browning, out there right now are a couple of thousand hearth.com members saying "What the hell are they talking about?".

Victory.

ETA: Hey...that's it! the Woodstock Victory.