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Posted By Backwoods Savage,
Aug 23, 2013 at 11:46 AM
That would have to be given very serious consideration. Can't be too careful.
WOW! Your on to something there, jerky on the stove! My jerky recipe calls for baking for 12 hours at low temps. I bet if I put a crock pot on top of my PH soapstone, it will stay cool enough to slow "cook" jerky.
As to the friendliness of manufacturers I find the same from Mike from ESW here and his folks on the phone and did when I went to visit the plant. They just don't do a yearly party.
Something both companies have in spades is direct connection to their customers. Not through a dealer that has to worry about BBQ's and hot tubs instead of talking to you about your stove. Or not interested because warranty doesn't pay'em enough. They just get it done.
It sure looks like the folks at Wood Stock have thought of alot of little things that add value to the product. Plus they got the important design aspects covered also.
It looks to be a great stove maybe one of the best of all time. I like the idea its still all mechanical control.
Plus its amazing how tuned in they are with their customer base.
Brother Bart is right from all that I have read there are other great stove companies out there also.
I think its great that they put on the Wood Stove Decathlon to spark innovation. Thanks John Ackerly
Just think, stoves like this will challenge other companies to raise their game to a new level also, competition is always good.
Does the Government really need to come out with new standards? Oh well thats another topic.
Lastly to BackWoods Savage, I hope my discussion of the technology wasnt taken as bickering as it was only intended delve into the technology.
There are limitations to where the technology can take us, its not a slam on any designer or company. As all companies will be hitting the
technology stretch limit soon. You can only do so much.
One thing I liked talking with Woodstock is that their builds are always way ahead of the up coming clean air standards so your getting a nice clean burning stove,,, if your burn good seasoned wood and correctly... To me they're trying to give you the best of the best...
All modern EPA stoves are clean burning. The difference between 1 gm/hr and 3 gms/hr. is tiny.
I believe future Woodstock stoves will be aiming for the lower end of that spread, or even better.
I think that can become a matter of diminishing returns other than marketing bragging rights, like what happened when the CapeCod came out. IMO, their efforts would be more wisely spent continuing to improve efficiency and visual design.
Why not do both?
You make some practical points - but I do love my clean air. I guess it's a personal thing.
Your pet's dandruff puts more particulate in the air then these clean burners.
My flue is about 25 ft from my neighbor's house. They would prefer my stove burn as clean as possible too.
DON'T YOU BE BADMOUTHING MY PETS
Being considerate goes a long way for having good neigbor relations, and it's also good for protecting the future of the industry. A Win-Win.
That is assuming they would note the slightest difference between 1.16 and 1.06 gms. The answer is no. If this is a serious concern, burn gas.
It never hurts to strive for perfection - and that is all Woodstock is doing. And I for one appreciate that.
True, they made the new stove a steel box, getting closer.
If I had not been able to find a clean burning stove like my Fireview on the secondary market at a decent price, I would not have installed one. I value my neighbors' friendships that much. I wanted to be able to say to them, "This is one of the cleanest burning stoves on the market," and not have to worry about the dirt and smoke. I certainly would not have installed a dragon in this neighborhood, and I specifically sought out one of the cleanest burning CAT stoves.
They might not notice the difference, but its peace of mind for me.
Now. Now. Cheap shots will win you no new friends
You're a good neighbor Brian. The kind I would appreciate having. And that kind of thinking ends up helping all us woodburners in the public relations arena.
Wait until your neighbor thinks your not even burning your stove ! That says it all about Woodstocks clean burning stoves
Pleeeease......the sweetness is Givin me a toothache.......heh heh
With all the forest fires burning out west, I guess stove emissions really are irrelevant for you guys............