I bought two today, was able to get better deal on amazon but i got them from the place i buy all my piping, adapter etc. way more expensive but i put it behind me already. I am 0.12 WC on one stove and 0.13 WC on the other. Not bad. Maybe if i have a chance i will put at least one today. at least will be a quick swap.
strait shot around 20ft, my issue it that I live on top of a hill, took down a bunch of tree's around the house, I have a lot of natural forcing.
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Happy New Year Bholler....
It’s not done.. there’s no fire in it!
Very clean install! Maybe webby can use you to help on installs!
Does that listing override the ul127 listing for the zero clearance fireplace? What fireplaces are they tested in?
You and I've written of these previously. You should not install a solid fuel heater into a UL127 fireplace that is listed as not having a solid fuel heater installed. And, never modify a UL127 fireplace. As for which fireplace is used in actual test...I'm not certain which unit the test labs use.
He’s just looking for a fight. You can’t win, no matter how much testing you do, and how very little testing the ZC fireplace manufacturers do. They don’t test for anything unnecessary and we all know that, why would they? There’s no money in it for them. You test it extensively and no consideration is given by The fireplace police.
How do you install an insert and liner in a ul listed fireplace without modifying it?
It isn't about winning. It is about making sure customers and installers know what they can do according to the codes and listings. If th insert is tested to work in a specific fireplace and all manufacturers involved approve i see no issue. But none of the stove manufacturers specify anything other than a listed fireplace even though the vast majority clearly don't allow inserts. To me that is irresponsible. Why areayou not concerned with code compliance when it comes to zeroclearance units?
Because I’m aware that these fireplace manufacturers do the absolute minimum testing. They do not and will not test for anything like insert, or doors. They provide pieces of crap doors, that no one wants. Others provide quality doors that have been tested and approved and you won’t accept it. Now a reputable stove manufacturer tests extensively and approves a stove for ZC fireplaces and you won’t accept that either. Do you think for one minute that manufactures like Travis Industries and Blaze King, and most all other major players would put themselves on the line for a small percentage of their sales to ZC installs if they didn’t feel confident in the testing?
They aren't putting themselves on the line. They say it must be installed in a listed fireplace. Once you as the installer remove that damper the listing is void. So you are no longer meeting their requirements. They are putting you on the line not themselves.
Not putting your business on the line is admirable, but common sense needs to be played at times too.
Where does it say that in the code book? Because the code book and install manuals are all that I would have on my side in court.
I keep seeing people talk about all their procedures while reloading with a ceramic cat. I’ve never ever done anything special at all, just stuff it full and let the stove do it's thing! I’ve never had a failed cat, and much prefer the ceramic cat after having both.
19% is fine. The wood doesn’t need to be perfect. I’ve had better luck using less than perfect wood in my cat stove than my non cats.
