Freestanding in bedroom?

[Hogwildz]

Now that I habe my livingroom insert planned and ordered. I turned my breezeway (750 sf) into a 15' x 30' master bedroom, 11' x 16' office for my work, 8'x8' walkthrough room connecting those two rooms and the existing house, into a 6'x13' bathroom I will complete in the exisiting house and a 8'x8' foyer/entrance. I would like to put a smaller Englander freestanding wood stove in the bedroom to heat the 750 sf area of the breezeway soon to be addition. Is NO stove allowed in a bedroom, even one of this size? I would be heating this area entirely with it.

 

[begreen]

No - wood - stove that I know of. Gas maybe?

 

[Hogwildz]

Ok, how bout in the office? LOL

 

[begreen]

Sounds ok to me. Works for Bart.

 

[Hogwildz]

Thats messed up, office is next to bedroom. WHy no bedroom with wood? I don't understand?

 

[begreen]

I guess there have been enough fatalities or near fatalities that have prompted code to be written this way. That sheetrock wall between the office and bedroom is protection while you are sleeping. Also, close the door with a stove in the bedroom that has a problem and you might not wake up. Regardless, you'd both be competing for the air in that room. Ask Elk for further code details.

 

[DonCT]

Yea, it's a sleeping issue. I think there are gas bedroom approved units out there.

 

[Roospike]

750 sf is a lot of room , there are 1000's of homes in New York that are about this size.
If you have open free air / open space I'm sure something can be installed safely and the correct way.
He(( , how does one put wood heat in a studio apartment or floor plain style home !?
I'm sure there is a way.

 

[BrotherBart]

Well hand me the opener and the can of worms please.

If you can't put a wood stove in a bedroom then why is the Osburn 2400 100,000 BTU stove "bedroom approved". There are others.

Why does Hearthstone's website say: "Most building codes allow woodstoves to be installed in bedrooms."

I would for sure use a stove with an outside combusion air connection.

 

[BrotherBart]

Thats messed up, office is next to bedroom. WHy no bedroom with wood? I don't understand?

I moved my office from upstairs to the basement because I already had a flue into the basement. Well, that and to escape the sound from my hard of hearing wife's television.

 

[wg_bent]

I could see a small stove in the breeze way or office taking care of that 750 sqft nicely. Typically, most people want the bedroom slightly cooler (my wife is the exception) than the rest of the house.

I did ask the question before and I don't think I got an answer...What defines a bedroom?

That may be the key to where you can install the stove.

 

[Rob From Wisconsin]

Well hand me the opener and the can of worms please.

If you can't put a wood stove in a bedroom then why is the Osburn 2400 100,000 BTU stove "bedroom approved". There are others.

Why does Hearthstone's website say: "Most building codes allow woodstoves to be installed in bedrooms."

I would for sure use a stove with an outside combusion air connection.

Same here..
Whe installed on in our pervious house to provide some heat to our upstair area.
It was inspected twice by our insurance carrier & also by a lisc. home inspector
prior to the sale of our house. No complaints ever.
As long as you do it right & safe, I fail to see the problem.

P.S. - The only time our CO detector went "off" was when our GAS hot water heater
failed. Not for the woodburing units.

 

[webbie]

Now that I habe my livingroom insert planned and ordered. I turned my breezeway (750 sf) into a 15' x 30' master bedroom, 11' x 16' office for my work, 8'x8' walkthrough room connecting those two rooms and the existing house, into a 6'x13' bathroom I will complete in the exisiting house and a 8'x8' foyer/entrance. I would like to put a smaller Englander freestanding wood stove in the bedroom to heat the 750 sf area of the breezeway soon to be addition. Is NO stove allowed in a bedroom, even one of this size? I would be heating this area entirely with it.

The code is written mostly for the size and air flow of bedrooms....normal ones, that is.

I have spoken to local officials who allow stoves in very large bedrooms which are open to other rooms. The main reason, in my opinion, is the potential lack of combustion air. Keep in mind that even 10,000 BTU VENT_FREE units are allowed in a bedroom! That is, virtually any bedroom.

This issue is somewhat similar to the "garage vs. shop" one, that is - if cars and gas, etc. are not in it, it is a shop!

 

[Hogwildz]

The idea of a woodstove in a bedroom providing any savings is one that should REALLY be thought through...extensively. Bedrooms really require very little heat, and if you consider all the expense (stove, installation, fuel) and aggravation, I think you'll decide against the idea.

This "bedroom" is large! 15' x 25' and if door left open, is open to office11' x 16', a connecting walkthrough room 8' x 9' and will be open to rest of house if most doors left open. All these rooms have 10' ceilings. I work from home and spend more time in office then bedroom. I would rather the stove not be in the office, cause I don't need it real hot. Technically the stove would be heating the complete 750sf (25' x 30') area. Plus It may help in the bedroom with the romantic factor . We shall see, maybe the Summit will put out enough heat that some drafts its way into the new area.

 

[BrotherBart]

Sounds like a good question for stoveguy2esw.

Yo Mike! Got any stoves that work in a bedroom? We are talking heating here.

 

[GVA]

Technically the stove would be heating the complete 750sf (25' x 30') area. Plus It may help in the bedroom with the romantic factor .

That would be a different kind of wood in the bedroom :smirk:

 

[Hogwildz]

Sounds like a good question for stoveguy2esw.

Yo Mike! Got any stoves that work in a bedroom? We are talking heating here.

oops double take, sorry

 

[Hogwildz]

Sounds like a good question for stoveguy2esw.

Yo Mike! Got any stoves that work in a bedroom? We are talking heating here.

I would def go outside air. The rooms are only steel studs at the moment, so everything is open and I can box over where I run the outside air.
I am thinking of going outside air for the insert also. The living room is on the other side of the wall the new bedroom will be. Matter of fact, the chimney for the living room was outside wall until the breezeway was built. Now with the breezeway there and being finished, the back of the livingroom chimney will now be inside complete for about 2 stories. with approx 6 feet or so only outside the roof line. This is a good thing. Od course the back of the block chimney is ugly for the bedroom, but this will eventually be covered in cultured stone. And It would also make a great plasce for the freestanding in the bedroom. Not to mention I could secure the freestanding's chimney to the block from the back of theexisting living room chimney. Its set up so perfect. I need to research if in fact I can do the freestanding in beedroom.

Another question I have is this...... I have no opening in existing fireplace for outside air, I want to drill a hole through old fireplace to connect outside air pipe for new insert going in old fireplace. Any problem with that? It would most likely go straight through the back of existing fireplace and into the bedroom, then taken along the wall to the outside wall. Again I can box this off to conceal the piping. This way I could run both outside air to insert from living room, and outside air from freestanding the same rout to the outside wall, then make a chase for around them to conceal them.
I can try and draw a diagram of all this if it is helpful to understand what I am picturing in my head.
BTW yu]ou guys rock and and have helped me trmendously. I feel right at home here. Of course I am behaving myself still LOL.

 

[Hogwildz]

Technically the stove would be heating the complete 750sf (25' x 30') area. Plus It may help in the bedroom with the romantic factor .

That would be a different kind of wood in the bedroom :smirk:

Well, the only wood round this house lately is the firewood. Hence needing some romantic atmosphere LOL.

 

[wg_bent]

Technically the stove would be heating the complete 750sf (25' x 30') area. Plus It may help in the bedroom with the romantic factor .

That would be a different kind of wood in the bedroom :smirk:

Well, the only wood round this house lately is the firewood. Hence needing some romantic atmosphere LOL.

Sounds like you need more heat in the bedroom from your wood! ;-P

 

[Hogwildz]

Technically the stove would be heating the complete 750sf (25' x 30') area. Plus It may help in the bedroom with the romantic factor .

That would be a different kind of wood in the bedroom :smirk:

Well, the only wood round this house lately is the firewood. Hence needing some romantic atmosphere LOL.

Sounds like you need more heat in the bedroom from your wood! ;-P

I been trying bro, I'm stuck with a frige no matter how hot I try to make it LOL. I think I may need to trade in this model for a newer improved one.
New insert, new stove & new "firebox". They say good things come in 3's right?

 

[elkimmeg]

rooms having operating doors are not considered as connecting in terms of free air passage, unless the door is a louver door

Too late tonight dig the code out again, but Berdooms location like gagages are listed as prohibited locations for solid fuel burning appliances.

BTW BB I read the entire osburn 2400 manual, all 24 pages, and could not find the part where it is listed for bedroom location.

I always though there was other ways to heat up a bedroom. Is something wrong if a wood stove is needed?

 

[begreen]

Hogwildz I think if you have the stove in the office it will work ok for heating up the general vicinity of the new section. You probably don't want the highest temps in the bedroom anyway. And if you want the romance of a fire, install an LCD TV with a mantel surround and run a video of a fire. If it isn't hot enough, you can always put on a porn tape :wow:

 

[Hogwildz]

Hogwildz I think if you have the stove in the office it will work ok for heating up the general vicinity of the new section. You probably don't want the highest temps in the bedroom anyway. And if you want the romance of a fire, install an LCD TV with a mantel surround and run a video of a fire. If it isn't hot enough, you can always put on a porn tape :wow:

lol, NOTED

 

[BrotherBart]

rooms having operating doors are not considered as connecting in terms of free air passage, unless the door is a louver door

Too late tonight dig the code out again, but Berdooms location like gagages are listed as prohibited locations for solid fuel burning appliances.

BTW BB I read the entire osburn 2400 manual, all 24 pages, and could not find the part where it is listed for bedroom location.

I always though there was other ways to heat up a bedroom. Is something wrong if a wood stove is needed?

It looks like one of their dealers is making up his own approvals Elk.

http://www.nevelsstoves.com/osburnstoves/2400stove.htm

Which section of NFPA 211 or BOCA prohibits solid fuel applicances in bedrooms?