Help on Tri-axle log loads needed

[snydley]

In our local Penny-saver newspaper this weekend was and ad for firewood, it says:
"FIREWOOD FOR SALE: 4'X8'X16" or any length. Seasoned for several years or green ash. Split or unsplit. Delivered or U-Haul Triaxle log loads $650."
I have several questions:
How big a load is a Tri-axle load,(how many logs)? What length are they? How many cords, or face cords can I expect to get out of a Tri-axle load.
Thanks

 

[JustWood]

Call them.

 

[tw40x81]

Here's a the thread with details about my last triaxle load. Last quote for a load was $450 back in December. Actually, I haven't been able to coax another load from this guy.

 

[Dave_1]

Snidely,

4’ x 8’ x 16’ = 512 cu feet, 512 cu ft divided by a cord (128 cu ft) = 4 cords

An 18 wheeler with a “pole” trailer empty is @ 30,000 lbs.
State road weights vary. Assuming NY is 80,000 lbs gross then
80,000 - 30,000 = 50,000 lbs of green white oak, or @ 9 cords.
$650 divided by 9 cords = $72.22 a cord
If your getting another type of wood plug in the tree type at

http://www.csgnetwork.com/logweight.html

 

[snydley]

Call them.

I'm gonna call them, I just like to know up front what to expect so I'll know how honest they are.

 

[snydley]

Snidely,

4’ x 8’ x 16’ = 512 cu feet, 512 cu ft divided by a cord (128 cu ft) = 4 cords

An 18 wheeler with a “pole” trailer empty is @ 30,000 lbs.
State road weights vary. Assuming NY is 80,000 lbs gross then
80,000 - 30,000 = 50,000 lbs of green white oak, or @ 9 cords.
$650 divided by 9 cords = $72.22 a cord
If your getting another type of wood plug in the tree type at

http://www.csgnetwork.com/logweight.html

Thanks for the info., very helpfull!

 

[snydley]

Here's a the thread with details about my last triaxle load. Last quote for a load was $450 back in December. Actually, I haven't been able to coax another load from this guy.

Nice thread! Now I've got the info I need, I'll call them later today and let you know what I find out.

 

[JustWood]

Call them.

I'm gonna call them, I just like to know up front what to expect so I'll know how honest they are.

Trucks vary in bunk size so any info you obtain here would be different from the vendor. An unexperienced loader operater or crooked poles will cause a load to come up short also.Too many variables for every load to cut out the same.Why would you assume the vendor will be dishonest ? Hopefully Downeast doesn't see this thread.

 

[polaris]

I would assume a tri axle load refers to a tri axle goose neck trailer(the kind pulled behind a diesel or big block gasser dually pick up) not an 80,000 cgvwr tractor trailer load. My 28' tri axle can haul a max load of 24,000 lbs( three 10,000# axles). Just something to think about. I'm curious to hear what this guy is refering to.
Joe

 

[Dave_1]

Snidely,

Lees wood is correct. Nine cords is in the eye of the logger, but the smokey may say; "No way, Jose!" :coolmad:

Many years ago our state required loggers to post road caution signs warning the driving public to expect
“log trucks entering the highway ahead“

Since our State troopers are assigned specific counties & roads to patrol they would see those signs & alert the state’s Weights & Standards Division (WSD) about logger activity. The WSD would find a suitable pull off zone in the direction the loggers were going & invite them to use their portable weigh station. :bug:

The loggers never had a chance. Invariably most dual axel trailers were found to be overloaded.

But they figured it out. Pay a little more at license time, for a tri-axel trailer that increased their legal weight 18,000 lbs, & they wouldn’t have to pay for the legislator’s vacation. ;-)

So @ here you seldom see a dual axel semi log pole trailer.

And polaris may be correct as well about the gooseneck application.

Either way be sure to bring your saw files because you're going to need them.

Good luck with it.

 

[wally]

I would assume a tri axle load refers to a tri axle goose neck trailer(the kind pulled behind a diesel or big block gasser dually pick up) not an 80,000 cgvwr tractor trailer load.

that's the issue with "colloquial" or regional definitions. they vary.

in northern new england, a "tri-axle" is assumed to be a chassis log truck, with no pup. it isn't a cab with a 45' or 50' trailer or a gooseneck. the bunks are generally 16 feet, but some are 14 and some are 20 (i'm sure there are other variations, too).

as lee states, the size of the bunk, and operator skill, are going to determine the volume of wood that gets delivered. and he's also right about the loads varying based on the wood itself - the load volumes are an average. most of the operators seem to deliver at least what they claim, with a little overrun. ask around, heck, ask some of the clients that the advertiser delivered to about the accuracy of their delivered volumes.

 

[brooktrout]

I think in most cases a triaxle refers to a log truck with a grapple on it, and will average 6-8 cord.