Encore 2040 cat c overheat

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Ha ha 72/74 sounds about right for this household aswell. My flames tend to be in the front near the glass. With some messing around I can get them to die back on a long burn. If I do it to quickly I still get some back puffing. I'm still going with my theory that my wood is split to small. Definitely feel better about the stove and operational learning curve since joining the group! Have a great night around the fire.
If you turn a big fire down too quick it's definitely gonna back puff. The fire is gasping for more air. Definitely have to go slow dialing the air back.
 
Yeah I learned that lesson the hard way! Now I usually spread out the dial back over a 20 min span. Still get the back puffing occasional. Way less after your tip about 8 min off gassing! Thank-you!
 
From other threads I have read the back puffing seems like a common thing with these VC stoves. Seem to learn about a new quirk every day
 
my 2040 has never worked correctly I believe. my original stove was a 2550 non cat...no problems....once I have a fire started and griddle temp is 500 I engage the cat. The air control seem to have no control I cannot eliminate the flame. Temp continues to rise above 700-800 when I open or close the air control it seems to have very little control over the flame. same problem with the cat in or out. I "thought" the air control should be able to eliminate any flame and slowly kill the fire......please comment on your experiences with the 2040..thanks...adjustment on the air control is ok and I cannot find any leaks
 
my 2040 has never worked correctly I believe. my original stove was a 2550 non cat...no problems....once I have a fire started and griddle temp is 500 I engage the cat. The air control seem to have no control I cannot eliminate the flame. Temp continues to rise above 700-800 when I open or close the air control it seems to have very little control over the flame. same problem with the cat in or out. I "thought" the air control should be able to eliminate any flame and slowly kill the fire......please comment on your experiences with the 2040..thanks...adjustment on the air control is ok and I cannot find any leaks
Your stove top temp rises to 700-800? Or the cat temp?

Does this happen on a hot reload? Cold startup? My thoughts are you are leaving the damper open too long and lighting the entire load up before engaging bypass. By then it's too late. My flames definitely die down as I cut my air flow. But I also do that based on cat temps versus stove top. I largely ignore more stove top temp unless I feel the room is cold. Then I add a little more air until I get to about 550-600 stt to get the house more comfortable.

This stove is also a pain in the ass to figure out
 
my 2040 has never worked correctly I believe. my original stove was a 2550 non cat...no problems....once I have a fire started and griddle temp is 500 I engage the cat. The air control seem to have no control I cannot eliminate the flame. Temp continues to rise above 700-800 when I open or close the air control it seems to have very little control over the flame. same problem with the cat in or out. I "thought" the air control should be able to eliminate any flame and slowly kill the fire......please comment on your experiences with the 2040..thanks...adjustment on the air control is ok and I cannot find any leaksT

I had the Griddle gasket replaced and similar problems were no longer. If your griddle gasket is squished to flat it won’t seal. These gaskets are metal weave and very firm . The griddle is not square, pull it off and put a square across, you’ll see both sides curl slightly. When installing new gasket don’t press it down into the cement hard, lightly lay it in the cement and gently lower griddle. Allow it to cure for 24 hrs then do a small break in fire, once stove is cool to the tough build a normal fire. I believe Replacing the Damper Gasket solved the rest. No Crazy fires and Air control actually cuts down the flame. Adjustments to the air control are pretty simple. Just be careful not to tighten Allen bolt to hard on wire, it can pinch enough to damage the wire. Good way to test griddle is with a high power flashlight from the inside, shine around bottom of griddle.
 
my 2040 has never worked correctly I believe. my original stove was a 2550 non cat...no problems....once I have a fire started and griddle temp is 500 I engage the cat. The air control seem to have no control I cannot eliminate the flame. Temp continues to rise above 700-800 when I open or close the air control it seems to have very little control over the flame. same problem with the cat in or out. I "thought" the air control should be able to eliminate any flame and slowly kill the fire......please comment on your experiences with the 2040..thanks...adjustment on the air control is ok and I cannot find any leaks
Also from what I read from other people there is a secondary air flow that we cannot control on these stoves. This will always allow some degree of air flow and not allow the fire to smolder.
 
my 2040 has never worked correctly I believe. my original stove was a 2550 non cat...no problems....once I have a fire started and griddle temp is 500 I engage the cat. The air control seem to have no control I cannot eliminate the flame. Temp continues to rise above 700-800 when I open or close the air control it seems to have very little control over the flame. same problem with the cat in or out. I "thought" the air control should be able to eliminate any flame and slowly kill the fire......please comment on your experiences with the 2040..thanks...adjustment on the air control is ok and I cannot find any leaks
I wouldn’t say mine has no control but surprisingly little. The order of doing things we’ve discussed is the best way I’ve found to control this issue as well. Now my out of control peak is 600-650 the majority of the time which is good temp for me, but still when it’s getting there it’s not cause I’m trying for hot fire it’s cause in peak burn it’s gonna climb no matter what I do. Occasionally 700-750. Sucks that it can’t just stay 500 or 450 but I don’t believe this stove can unless you have maybe 3 medium splits or 2 or 3 large. Unfortunately in my setup it’s only workin for a half load, not a hair more or back to 1600-1800 cat and 750-800 stt with air shut down for hrs.
 
I had the Griddle gasket replaced and similar problems were no longer. If your griddle gasket is squished to flat it won’t seal. These gaskets are metal weave and very firm . The griddle is not square, pull it off and put a square across, you’ll see both sides curl slightly. When installing new gasket don’t press it down into the cement hard, lightly lay it in the cement and gently lower griddle. Allow it to cure for 24 hrs then do a small break in fire, once stove is cool to the tough build a normal fire. I believe Replacing the Damper Gasket solved the rest. No Crazy fires and Air control actually cuts down the flame. Adjustments to the air control are pretty simple. Just be careful not to tighten Allen bolt to hard on wire, it can pinch enough to damage the wire. Good way to test griddle is with a high power flashlight from the inside, shine around bottom of griddle.
So can you now load firebox completely and have manageable cat and stt temps throughout burn?
 
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I just loaded a full load. Cat was 550 on reload. Stove temp maybe 300 this was 8:28. 10 min damper open. Closed it up. Air fully open until cat hit 850 now I'm gradually closing it off. I'm halfway closed with cat at 925. I'll have it in my cruise control position slightly more than fully close by the time I hit 1050
 
I just loaded a full load. Cat was 550 on reload. Stove temp maybe 300 this was 8:28. 10 min damper open. Closed it up. Air fully open until cat hit 850 now I'm gradually closing it off. I'm halfway closed with cat at 925. I'll have it in my cruise control position slightly more than fully close by the time I hit 1050
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Hahaha I think you definitely got yours runnin better than most. Mine is good at that point in the burn as well pretty much exactly what I do, I generally let it get a little cooler first. But couple hrs in is a deferent story ha
 
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Hahaha I think you definitely got yours runnin better than most. Mine is good at that point in the burn as well pretty much exactly what I do, I generally let it get a little cooler first. But couple hrs in is a deferent story ha
Try letting some ash build up. Someone else said they do this and I started and think it makes a difference. My ash pan is full and definitely couple inches of ash in the box
 
Try letting some ash build up. Someone else said they do this and I started and think it makes a difference. My ash pan is full and definitely couple inches of ash in the box
Yeah I do that too. I’m kinda like you I’ve read I think every post on here n put all the recs to use. I’m curious what results will gets after a few large loads n tempted to replace my gasket if his keeps runnin better. Mine definitely mashed flat like his but I believe they all are. I looked at several at dealer n appeared same. I feel like I’m right on the edge of havin it runnin great n if there a small leak somewhere I think that would do the trick.
 
Yeah I do that too. I’m kinda like you I’ve read I think every post on here n put all the recs to use. I’m curious what results will gets after a few large loads n tempted to replace my gasket if his keeps runnin better. Mine definitely mashed flat like his but I believe they all are. I looked at several at dealer n appeared same. I feel like I’m right on the edge of havin it runnin great n if there a small leak somewhere I think that would do the trick.
I personally wouldn’t think air would come in through griddle as much as smoke might get out, but it definitely could.
 
Yeah I do that too. I’m kinda like you I’ve read I think every post on here n put all the recs to use. I’m curious what results will gets after a few large loads n tempted to replace my gasket if his keeps runnin better. Mine definitely mashed flat like his but I believe they all are. I looked at several at dealer n appeared same. I feel like I’m right on the edge of havin it runnin great n if there a small leak somewhere I think that would do the trick.
Could be a small leak in there. That would do it. Plus all our setups are just a little bit different right. Different wood. Different chimney. Different air temps. Altitudes. So many variables here. Definitely isn't a one size fits all process that will work.

The next thing to figure out is how to get the 12-14 hour burn the website says they get
 
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Could be a small leak in there. That would do it. Plus all our setups are just a little bit different right. Different wood. Different chimney. Different air temps. Altitudes. So many variables here. Definitely isn't a one size fits all process that will work.

The next thing to figure out is how to get the 12-14 hour burn the website says they get
Yeah I’m sure all companies exaggerate that a bit. Honestly surprised you don’t get that on full load. I can do 4 very large splits which is what I’m callin half full and go from 7:30/8 pm- 4 am. Meaning stove is 300-350 full of big hot coals.
 
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Loaded up I usually only get 8-9 hours out of it. When I get up at 430 there's only some coals left. Enough to throw some splits on and light right back up but nothing more than that. Cat temp is like 300. Stove temp about the same. But gets me through the night. Really all I need. The stove itself has been running nonstop for almost 2 weeks at this point.

This will be the first weekend its actually cold so it'll be interesting to see how it does
 
Loaded up I usually only get 8-9 hours out of it. When I get up at 430 there's only some coals left. Enough to throw some splits on and light right back up but nothing more than that. Cat temp is like 300. Stove temp about the same. But gets me through the night. Really all I need. The stove itself has been running nonstop for almost 2 weeks at this point.

This will be the first weekend its actually cold so it'll be interesting to see how it does
Curious what actual cold is there for y’all. We are too this weekend gonna be single digits which is very rare here especially this time of year